42 minutes ago, ducavis said:

Yes.. and that same system has won 2 cup trophies this season, and in 2 additional finals already. 
Personally if we end up with the Super Cup, Community Shield, World Club Cup & another cup it would have been a brilliant season. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a Cup Manager/Specialist.

I know we keep taking players from Leicester but taking their trophy too is taking it a bit far, even if it is a friendly trophy. 

 

Tuchel is a genius at winning football matches and has adapted well to the Premier league, but to win this league something will have to change. While 3atb does bring success in cup matches as pointed out on here it probably won't be enought win a league campaign anymore. 

Liverpool and City win relentlessly for 3 reasons in my opinion. Firstly their defenders and midfield are good enough to not need a 3rd cb and therefore they don't have to commit to 5 defenders like we do. 

Secondly because they play with less players in defence they can commit more bodies forward which makes them more open on the counter. By being more open it allows opponents to come on to them more which in turn makes their opponents more vunerable on the counter.

That last sentence ties in with the final point, elite finishers, doesn't mater if they're not traditional strikers both City and Liverpool have elite goal scorers and therefore when they do create chances they finish them with high efficiency.

All of these points we've spoken about on here multiple times, if we're aware Tuchel and his coaching staff must be also.

If Tuchel wants to play 3atb then let him but he needs the players to allow him to do so. The board should have bought Kounde in the Summer, they should 100% buy him this summer. They should give him two to three more of his first choice targets in whatever position and commit to the TT project.

We should also continue to back TT choices as long as they continue to bring results, as much as much as we regret bringing Lukaku back he's here now and if TT sees him as his guy then that means he's our guy. I think he will come good and the main reason he's lost his potency is the lack of Reece and Ben who had been providing him with some good deliveries and early balls.

I still think 442/424 is the future direction if we get the right players in, I assume that is TT's plan, but for all we know he may want to continue with 3atb for the entirety of his managerial reign.

 

9 hours ago, LongtimerLurker said:

 

Tuchel is a genius at winning football matches and has adapted well to the Premier league, but to win this league something will have to change. While 3atb does bring success in cup matches as pointed out on here it probably won't be enought win a league campaign anymore. 

Liverpool and City win relentlessly for 3 reasons in my opinion. Firstly their defenders and midfield are good enough to not need a 3rd cb and therefore they don't have to commit to 5 defenders like we do. 

Secondly because they play with less players in defence they can commit more bodies forward which makes them more open on the counter. By being more open it allows opponents to come on to them more which in turn makes their opponents more vunerable on the counter.

That last sentence ties in with the final point, elite finishers, doesn't mater if they're not traditional strikers both City and Liverpool have elite goal scorers and therefore when they do create chances they finish them with high efficiency.

All of these points we've spoken about on here multiple times, if we're aware Tuchel and his coaching staff must be also.

If Tuchel wants to play 3atb then let him but he needs the players to allow him to do so. The board should have bought Kounde in the Summer, they should 100% buy him this summer. They should give him two to three more of his first choice targets in whatever position and commit to the TT project.

We should also continue to back TT choices as long as they continue to bring results, as much as much as we regret bringing Lukaku back he's here now and if TT sees him as his guy then that means he's our guy. I think he will come good and the main reason he's lost his potency is the lack of Reece and Ben who had been providing him with some good deliveries and early balls.

I still think 442/424 is the future direction if we get the right players in, I assume that is TT's plan, but for all we know he may want to continue with 3atb for the entirety of his managerial reign.

 

3 at the back is not a problem, however there will be games where you need to pair your midfield with fabregas/pogba type to get more offensive output from our midfield like what Conte did. 

Hate to rain on a parade but when we sack managers around this time we win Champions Leagues or at least make it to the final. Goodbye Thomas? 

On 10/02/2022 at 21:44, axman2526 said:

Good in theory. Question is did TT want lukaku?

Probably wanted Haaland and got told this is the best they could do

So still this dross football isny Tuchels fault, right?

3 minutes ago, dkw said:

So still this dross football isny Tuchels fault, right?

He hasn't been backed, no Hakimi, no Kounde no CM just a BTEC Drogba that doesn't even want to be here

6 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

He hasn't been backed, no Hakimi, no Kounde no CM just a BTEC Drogba that doesn't even want to be here

Yeah, he's got a terrible squad hasn't he.....rubbish.

6 minutes ago, dkw said:

Yeah, he's got a terrible squad hasn't he.....rubbish.

People we justifying this same squad being 9th when Lampard was in charge, saying they were young and inexperienced

Won more silverware than any manager we have had since Mourinho first time around. In twelve months at the club...

 

1 minute ago, Sindre said:

Won more silverware than any manager we have had since Mourinho first time around. In twelve months at the club...

 

Going to overtake Mourinho as our best manager ever at this rate

He has some record in knockout football since arriving. Nearly always gets the job done even if it’s not too pretty at times. Hopefully this continues in 2 weeks time.

He's got some work to do now, we inched past Plymouth, Al Hilal and Palmeiras.. the last few matches have been unenjoyable and draining for me. Hopefully another weeks good rest and prep work gets us back to some kind of good form.

46 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

Going to overtake Mourinho as our best manager ever at this rate

Nowhere near it

20 minutes ago, Boyne said:

The trophies are getting progressively smaller.

1 minute ago, Valerie said:

The trophies are getting progressively smaller.

I mean if you win the CL on the first attempt, at that point, it is just going backwards 😄

1 hour ago, dkw said:

So still this dross football isny Tuchels fault, right?

We were playing tiki taka football pre tuchel yes..

Missing the super attacking football played by AC, MS and JM v2.0.. 

35 minutes ago, sonic90 said:

He's got some work to do now, we inched past Plymouth, Al Hilal and Palmeiras.. the last few matches have been unenjoyable and draining for me. Hopefully another weeks good rest and prep work gets us back to some kind of good form.

Hopefully this title is a turning point for the squad to get the confidence going forward, we need more daring decision making.

40 minutes ago, Ernie_blue said:

Nowhere near it

Hes close. It's not like Jose won a Champions League.

Not sure why he’s being lauded. I won it all with Chelsea on Championship Manager 93 on the Amiga. Did it all within a year and followed it up similarly with Oldham, Crewe and Chesterfield 

 

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Thomas Tuchel has revealed he told Chelsea 's players that "everyone is jealous" of them before they became world champions by winning the FIFA Club World Cup final.

4 minutes ago, mojo said:

 

 

 

Well Pep sounded bitter in his "Chelsea are the best team in the world" statement.