10 minutes ago, JM7 said:

Can anyone explain what a A and B substance is? 

The A sample is the initial test done. If it's positive, there's a small chance it could be a false positive.

The B sample is the follow up test to see if the A sample is accurate or not.

Depends entirely on the substance regarding how the club will act I suppose. 

18 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

I’d imagine it would be the same as the Mutu situation? Breach of contract. 
 

 

 

Multiple lawsuits later and he could not pay us the money he was told to pay.

Not sure what it would mean for FFP either. Sack him and does his full value becomes due and punish us?

Now at least we know where that pace came from! 👀

6 hours ago, JM7 said:

Can anyone explain what a A and B substance is? 

Well I think we can safely rule out the performance-enhancing variety

8 minutes ago, PloKoon13 said:

Well I think we can safely rule out the performance-enhancing variety

So you reckon he’s been doing drugs like Mutu?

If true it is just typical that as soon as there is an inkling of positivity about us in the eyes of the media then boom, scandal time.

I have had concerns about this lad from the get go , what with the gym obsession and the social media presence.

Hoping it's all unfounded but his absence has been prolonged, for being ill. 

Now that we are back to competing this cat may actually cost us north of £90 million. After about a week of decent performances in Ukraine. That's pretty crazy "y'all"

Both no. 1 in men's tennis and women's tennis have tested positive in the last months and they were ok.

It can be a cough syrup or a wound healing spray or sleeping tablets like melatonin that's contaminated with one of the banned substances.

Ironic really, because watching him play, always makes me feel like taking drugs!

Think there is a fair chance this is true. I assume he will sacked 

45 minutes ago, petre ispirescu said:

Both no. 1 in men's tennis and women's tennis have tested positive in the last months and they were ok.

It can be a cough syrup or a wound healing spray or sleeping tablets like melatonin that's contaminated with one of the banned substances.

We'll have to wait and see.

The most obvious football examples I can think of since Mutu, would be Kolo Toure, who was banned for 6 months in 2011, and then resumed his career at Man City for a season as a squad player before transferring to Liverpool, and of course Pogba, who got a 4 year ban, subsequently reduced to 18 months, and has recently been released by Juventus.

With the obvious caveat that it is all guess-work at this stage, would some kind of a 12 month (give or take) ban even make that much difference for Chelsea? The dude is on a million year contract, he is nowhere near crucial or even important for the team at this stage, but there might be some lingering hope that he'll get a bit better at some point in the future.

So he spends a year training with reserves (or whatever training set-up that is compatible with a ban)... might not affect his general trajectory. 

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/article/club-statement-mykhailo-mudryk

 

Ukraine has been nothing short of a nightmare for this club.

3 hours ago, PloKoon13 said:

Well I think we can safely rule out the performance-enhancing variety

Post of the week at the very least 😂

As a member of Mudryk's Shed End PR team I will make no further comments until the B test has come back.

Thank you.

Positives for both Mudryk and Arsenal lol... at least the Arse can find solace in the fact that they dodged this bullet.

15 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

We'll have to wait and see.

The most obvious football examples I can think of since Mutu, would be Kolo Toure, who was banned for 6 months in 2011, and then resumed his career at Man City for a season as a squad player before transferring to Liverpool, and of course Pogba, who got a 4 year ban, subsequently reduced to 18 months, and has recently been released by Juventus.

If it's not a substance like pure testosterone (Pogba) that requires a lenghty ban, then he should be fine. The better he cooperates with the authorities and the faster he provides the source of contamination, then his ban might only resume to this current period he is on the sidelines and the investigation is in progress.

It's what happened with Jannik Sinner and Iga Swiatek in tennis this last few months. They were very quick to identify the source of contamination and the investigation was over. 

I know WADA is now more open to listen to athletes and give back a quick response after all that has happened to former no. 1 and GS winner Simona Halep in tennis. Her career was basically ruined by WADA's slow investigation, although she stated from the start that one of the supplements was contaminated. The thing is those supplements were provided by her coaches from Mouratoglou Academy and they were cowards and did not want to admit it to not get the Mouratoglou Academy involved in all of that and tarnish their reputation. But in the end they had no choice but to admit in was their fault and Simona Halep was back on tour. But unfortunately she is not the same anymore and her career is over after two years on the sidelines.

What now?, point deduction?

From the telegraph, I suspect this as an accident and it’s something he was given either by his personal doctors or someone. I doubt he would be silly enough to take a banned substance knowing that he gets tested.

I will back Misha until it’s proven he knowingly took a banned substance 

 

 

Here is an article on what the drug is:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/mar/08/meldonium-maria-sharapova-failed-drugs-test?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

Meldonium, also known as Mildronate, is an anti-ischemic drug initially developed for treating heart conditions like angina and heart failure. It is now banned in sports due to its performance-enhancing effects. Meldonium can improve endurance, reduce lactate production, enhance glycogen storage and utilization, and protect against oxidative stress, which can significantly boost athletic performance by improving aerobic capacity and recovery times[1][2][3]. Despite its benefits in medical applications, its use in sports is controversial due to limited scientific evidence supporting its performance-enhancing claims[6][8].

Sources
[1] Substance Profile: Meldonium | U.S. Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) https://www.usada.org/spirit-of-sport/education/meldonium/
[2] Meldonium Supplementation in Professional Athletes https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11292090/
[3] Meldonium (Mildronate): Definition and uses in sports https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/309165
[4] [PDF] Meldonium, or mildronate - DOPING.nl https://www.doping.nl/media/kb/3720/Meldonium or mildronate - FINADA (2016).pdf
[5] Meldonium https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meldonium
[6] Story behind meldonium-from pharmacology to performance ... https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27465696/
[7] Meldonium (Mildronate): A Performance‐Enhancing Drug? https://accp1.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cpdd.264
[8] Story behind meldonium–from pharmacology to performance ... https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/51/1/22.short
 

 

Edited December 17, 20241 yr by El regreso

4 minutes ago, El regreso said:

Here is an article on what the drug is:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/mar/08/meldonium-maria-sharapova-failed-drugs-test?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

Meldonium, also known as Mildronate, is an anti-ischemic drug initially developed for treating heart conditions like angina and heart failure. It is now banned in sports due to its performance-enhancing effects. Meldonium can improve endurance, reduce lactate production, enhance glycogen storage and utilization, and protect against oxidative stress, which can significantly boost athletic performance by improving aerobic capacity and recovery times[1][2][3]. Despite its benefits in medical applications, its use in sports is controversial due to limited scientific evidence supporting its performance-enhancing claims[6][8].

Sources
[1] Substance Profile: Meldonium | U.S. Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) https://www.usada.org/spirit-of-sport/education/meldonium/
[2] Meldonium Supplementation in Professional Athletes https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11292090/
[3] Meldonium (Mildronate): Definition and uses in sports https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/309165
[4] [PDF] Meldonium, or mildronate - DOPING.nl https://www.doping.nl/media/kb/3720/Meldonium or mildronate - FINADA (2016).pdf
[5] Meldonium https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meldonium
[6] Story behind meldonium-from pharmacology to performance ... https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27465696/
[7] Meldonium (Mildronate): A Performance‐Enhancing Drug? https://accp1.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cpdd.264
[8] Story behind meldonium–from pharmacology to performance ... https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/51/1/22.short
 

 

I think he’s finished if that’s what he tested positive for.  There was a lot of controversy over that drug years ago due to allegedly being used essentially as a supplement by Russian athletes. It’s been banned since 2016 though, so would have thought highly highly unlikely to be contained in any supplements or medicines. 

f**king hell, wtf is this? Athletes doping isn't uncommon but getting caught is annoying af.

Hope it's one of those contaminated substances rather than HRT or TRT or anything of that sort.

I'll back him until proven but can BlueCo just sell the guy? I'd rather the extra funds for FFP/PSR than this PR nightmare. This is the 2nd time he puts himself under the spotlight for something that's not related to football