8 hours ago, sonic90 said:

He's finally showing some quality and consitency too, if we had accepted bayern's offer and now had to watch him perform like this for them I would have been seething.

Many wanted him gone though, called him lazy and all sorts. Hope he keeps working hard and improving.

This wingback role suits him more than playing as a normal winger. Jst like Moses he seems better coming from deeper. He's actually being more direct and trying to take players on now, thats what i wanted to see for a while.

2 hours ago, Argo said:

See where Pulisic is on the chart, needs to turn it around.

2 hours ago, Argo said:

If we superimposed shots on target per 90 he would be struggling with the pack, isolated statistics can be misleading.

Poor from Tuchel subbing him off today. Don't like that at all. 

Didnt do well when he came in, but i actually thought he was just starting to get into the game when he was brought off. Shouldve gone on the left for Alonso. 

Totally baffled at Tuchel's words in why he subbed him. He was growing into the game and I certainly did not see lack of fight. He should of actually gone to LWB at least but taking him off was extremely, extremely baffling.

Genuinely think we would have won the game or at least had a few chances to win if he stayed on. He was the only player who looked like making something happen, taking him off for Ziyech was incredibly stupid. Ziyech is useless.

How was Werner allowed to prance about for the entire match and CHO hooked? Beggars belief. 

Just now, STATS said:

Totally baffled at Tuchel's words in why he subbed him. He was growing into the game and I certainly did not see lack of fight. He should of actually gone to LWB at least but taking him off was extremely, extremely baffling.

Seen this kind of thing plenty of times in the past with a few of our managers over the years. I remember Mourinho especially used to like to take a younger player off when things weren't going perfectly for the team. Tuchel would never do that to an experienced player. It's always easier, maybe even cowardly, to put the blame on the kid.

Ziyech and Werner had far worse games. 

Baffled at the decision to take CHO off to be honest. 

Thought he was frustrating again today so no problem with the decsion.

I want to see him trouble defenders like Foden, like Rashford, like Barnes at Leicester. Instead it always seems he bottles it and takes the easy option. Terrible ball into the box just before he was subbed today. Could have put the ball anywhere but kicked it straight at a saints defender.

Just maybe CHO needs  a rocket up his arse to wake him up and today he got that rocket!

Edited February 20, 20215 yr by Nibs

I feel for the lad. He wasn't spectacular but to have been thrown under the bus in public is awful. 

Tuchel should've just admitted he made the wrong move

1 minute ago, Nibs said:

Thought he was frustrating again today so no problem with the decsion.

I want to see him trouble defenders like Foden, like Rashford, like Branes at Leicester. Instead it always seems he bottles it and takes the easy option. Terrible ball into the box just before he was subbed today. Could have put the ball anywhere but kicked it straight at a saints defender.

Just maybe CHO needs  a rocket up his arse to wake him up and today he got that rocket!

The rocket should have been made in private though imo. 

It's never a good look for the manager to publicly state the problem especially at English media. They're going to have a field day

1 minute ago, Scott Harris said:

Seen this kind of thing plenty of times in the past with a few of our managers over the years. I remember Mourinho especially used to like to take a younger player off when things weren't going perfectly for the team. Tuchel would never do that to an experienced player. It's always easier, maybe even cowardly, to put the blame on the kid.

This is it for me, not a chance he does that to a senior player. It’s far easier for them to do it to the kids & unlikely the board will back the young players that cost us £0m the same way they back the “superstars” we pay tens of millions for. Alonso was a passenger today & for all the running about Werner does, his overall ability in general play is shocking for the standard of player he’s supposed to be.

5 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

Seen this kind of thing plenty of times in the past with a few of our managers over the years.

Yep, AVB sprung straight to my mind.

Just now, Deino said:

The rocket should have been made in private though imo. 

It's never a good look for the manager to publicly state the problem especially at English media. They're going to have a field day

Maybe, but coaches live and die by their decisions so we'll just have to see what TT did today has the desired effect.

Look when Mourinho subbed Joey Cole and SWP after about 20 minutes one game. Down to players to step up and show the coach they were wrong. I want to see a bit more fight and a bit more bottle from CHO so lets see how he reacts.

4 minutes ago, Nibs said:

Thought he was frustrating again today so no problem with the decsion.

I want to see him trouble defenders like Foden, like Rashford, like Branes at Leicester. Instead it always seems he bottles it and takes the easy option. Terrible ball into the box just before he was subbed today. Could have put the ball anywhere but kicked it straight at a saints defender.

Just maybe CHO needs  a rocket up his arse to wake him up and today he got that rocket!

If this is the time he had it on the byline - he couldn’t really put it anywhere could he? IRC, the only person in the box with a chance of getting the ball was Werner who was directly behind the defender he tried to put it throughs legs. If he’d cut it back to where no one was, people who say why’s he passing to no one. The lack of players we get in the box is frightening when we hit the byline.

3 minutes ago, Deino said:

It's never a good look for the manager to publicly state the problem especially at English media. They're going to have a field day

Missed the interview, can you sum up what he said.

Just now, Mod Stark said:

Missed the interview, can you sum up what he said.

Said he wasn’t happy with CHO’s attitude, body language and energy.

2 minutes ago, Nibs said:

Maybe, but coaches live and die by their decisions so we'll just have to see what TT did today has the desired effect.

Look when Mourinho subbed Joey Cole and SWP after about 20 minutes one game. Down to players to step up and show the coach they were wrong. I want to see a bit more fight and a bit more bottle from CHO so lets see how he reacts.

I agree. I just hope he steps up with us rather than go somewhere else then becomes a superstar because Mourinho did the same thing with you know who as well. 

4 minutes ago, Mod Stark said:

Missed the interview, can you sum up what he said.

Something along the lines of 

We brought in Callum Hudson-Odoi but I was not happy with his attitude, energy and counter-pressing. I took him off and we demand 100%, I feel he is not in the right shape to help us. It was a hard decision but tomorrow it is forgotten

 

 

Just now, Deino said:

I agree. I just hope he steps up with us rather than go somewhere else then becomes a superstar because Mourinho did the same thing with you know who as well. 

Yeah, but it's down to CHO. He can either become another what might have been and get added to the list of promising youngsters who didn't make it or he can step up and become a star. Looking right now it could go either way and I wouldn't put money on it.

1 minute ago, Nibs said:

Yeah, but it's down to CHO. He can either become another what might have been and get added to the list of promising youngsters who didn't make it or he can step up and become a star. Looking right now it could go either way and I wouldn't put money on it.

CHO has shown more effort and had more impact than pretty much every other player other than mount since Tuchel got here though, to hammer him in am interview after a poor 20 minutes in a game is just plain wrong and totally unnecessary.