It's a shame Sarriball is a rigid 4-3-3 formation ...  4-2-3-1 would look pretty tasty :

                       Higuain

Hudson-Odoi - Hazard - Willian/Pedro

                   Kante - Jorginho

Emerson - Luiz - Rudiger - Azpiliceuta

 

2 hours ago, Fatty_Speeding said:

Still hard to see how he's going to get game time.

Hazard and Higuain (barring a Torres-like disaster situation) are going to start every game, which leaves just one remaining place for Willian/Pedro/Hudson-Odoi to scrap over.

Hudson-Odoi is obviously the most talented out of the three but also the worst on current ability and we have no margin for experimentation when it comes to getting back into the Champions League for next season.

 

Therefore - and I'll merrily eat my words if I'm wrong and he ends up signing a new contract - in practical terms we've just signed away £30m for an extra few sub appearances from an 18 year old.

Whilst i think this is a very valid post, I also wonder if the board even think like this. After all how much did they lay out for Drinkwater with virtually no sub appearances to come.

9 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

It's a shame Sarriball is a rigid 4-3-3 formation ...  4-2-3-1 would look pretty tasty :

                       Higuain

Hudson-Odoi - Hazard - Willian/Pedro

                   Kante - Jorginho

Emerson - Luiz - Rudiger - Azpiliceuta

 

I'd put Willian (or RLC/Barkley) central there, bump CHO to the right and keep Hazard on the left.  Agreed, it would be tasty.

SS reporting CHO request rejected.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/11620847/callum-hudson-odois-transfer-request-rejected-by-chelsea

so far this transfer drama is being perpetrated by the English Media. I went to the Kicker to see if they had anything to add, but on their site they even said everything detail is being pushed by the English Media & the Kicker went on even further by stating it will wait until the window ends to see how this story ends.

good decision by the board to reject the transfer request (if true). anything can happen in the next 6 months, and it sends message to other youth & clubs that we will not go down easy

i'm sure there will be some people who moans "but he hasn't and isn't going to get meaningful minutes in here etc etc, better go to Bayern to get gametime etc etc", to be honest who f*king cares really, we're really thin in the winger department, only 4 wingers and one being Hazard who we depend on so much,  one injury crises and it can derail our whole season.

i love the kid, but i love Chelsea even more so I'm not going to pretend that I want the best for the kid. no, I want the best for Chelsea, and currently this decision is the best for us.

Good move by the club to show we won’t be bullied into a move by either side

CHO will get more gametime here than at Bayern the next 6 months

Gnabry, Coman, Robben, Ribery

Muller and James filling in on the wings during injuries

Not sure he walks into this team...

Let’s give him a run of games and see what he’s made of! 

Edited January 29, 20197 yr by dustbin719

55 minutes ago, robdog said:

so far this transfer drama is being perpetrated by the English Media. I went to the Kicker to see if they had anything to add, but on their site they even said everything detail is being pushed by the English Media & the Kicker went on even further by stating it will wait until the window ends to see how this story ends.

Hahah I was on the dailymail's football page and literally on the exact same screen was one article screening CHO was on the "brink" of a move to BM and another headline  was how CHO would not before the summer.  Certainly have their bases covered over there hahaha ha

Smoke, fire and all that it really does feel like a lot of the big outlets were huffing on the embers and trying to get the flames going.   I suppose more articles & click bait if he moves. 

1 hour ago, dustbin719 said:

Good move by the club to show we won’t be bullied into a move by either side

CHO will get more gametime here than at Bayern the next 6 months

Gnabry, Coman, Robben, Ribery

Muller and James filling in on the wings during injuries

Not sure he walks into this team...

Let’s give him a run of games and see what he’s made of! 

You are forgetting about Alphonse Davies, who bayscum recently bought from Vancouver WhiteCaps & guess what? Davies is 18 years old. I am sure CHO would be in competition with this guy, who has already been featured for The Senior Canadian National team. I am not so sure CHO is going to a better situation at bayscum than what he has here, but of course all of the talking heads are saying CHO needs to go away from Chelsea.

Edited January 29, 20197 yr by robdog

On 27/01/2019 at 20:23, big blue said:

Valid points. 

However to counter them. 

You're an 18 year old kid, in his first year playing for the club you support as a boy, you've played at Wembley in the charity shield, you've made your European debut, scored your first goal, you've played 2 games in the fa cup, 1 motm, 1 goal, and 2 assists. Your manager is publicly speaking highly of you, you are on the cusp of breaking into the starting 11, and the club want to give you a massive pay rise and long term contract. 

Why would you want to push for a move right now? 

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What part of that is true or credible though? 

He's playing well when he plays and the manager is clearly not interested in playing him in the Premier League, how he hasn't had games over Willian and Pedro with the way they're playing this season I have no idea, there isn't even a risk factor at this point. 

On 27/01/2019 at 21:41, Scott Harris said:

I have never seen pundits try and push a young English talent out of another English club before. Where was the complaining about Harry Kane who went through multiple loans and only got picked for Tottenham because Soldado was sh*t? 

If Rashford was pushing for a move out of United 3 years ago, would the pundits be saying he should go through with it? nah, they would be saying he should stay. It happened with Loftus-Cheek last season too, they kept saying he should leave Chelsea. 

Then there is Foden at City, why aren't they saying he should leave? He's in the exact same situation that Hudson-Odoi is in. They try and pretend that they care about the player, but really they just don't want to see the best young English talent playing for Chelsea. 

Kane was hardly ever in the spotlight and he actually looked pretty overrated when there was some hype lingering about him. There were plenty of other British "wonderkids" who were more hyped than Kane, once he got his chance at Spurs he broke through and he got that chance! 

CHO isn't getting that chance, you said it yourself Kane got his chance because Soldado was sh*t, then why isn't CHO getting his chance when you've got Willian and Pedro not performing up to standard? When we are massively crying out for goals. 

Rashford was unheard of until Van Gaal gave him a chance, CHO made his name through his impressive performances in the PL Youth Cups and Internationals and he's only getting good game time in the Cup games against sides in the Championship or less. As for Foden you might have a point but he's had much more game time at City than Hudson has ever had at Chelsea and City are actually winning a lot of games and have a very strong performing team. What's our excuse? There isn't even much of a risk factor in playing CHO at the moment... I think that's the point that people are missing here, our club doesn't have the reputation of developing prospects like it or not, you can't really blame the lad for considering other options when he clearly has a lot of options at his disposal. 

I think a lot of the pundits are talking sense on the matter, for a change... 

9 hours ago, Delnino said:

I said awhile back hes got a great opportunity to make it at Chelsea.

Himself and the 3 senior wingers have all got 18 months on their contracts left, Hazard could be gone in the summer and Pedro and Willian will be 32 and 31.

If Odoi wants to make it Chelsea, he will get his opportunity sooner rather than later but its entirely up to him, theres never been a better time as a young Chelsea winger to get into the side long term, Kakuta and Musonda both looked great back in their day at 18/19 but their path was blocked by  multiple players on top of their game or inflated squads, Odoi doesnt have any of that, his 2 main competitors are into their 30s and have 18 months left at the club.

How? If he can't get in the starting 11 now when will he ever get in? 

You seriously think if we sell Hazard and offload Willian & Pedro we won't get any replacements? 

10 hours ago, axman2526 said:

He does not have to be so good. Pedro's legs have gone, he cannot manage multiple games imo, Willian is far more miss than hit. I dare say CHO cannot take a worse corner than Willian or be less consistant.

Funnily enough I'm pretty sure CHO was taking corners against wednesday and I feel like nobody noticed.

So Sarri has said CHO is going nowhere this window or even in the summer, he simply isnt for sale. Great news, now hopefully he just gets his head down and gets on with things, acts professionally and gets his opportunities.

Don't expect to see him start every game but hopefully now he will be a proper first team squad member and involved more often than not. On that basis he should be allowed the odd poor game, just like the senior pro's, without being dropped.

Not saying it means much, could just be liking the praise from a teammate but thought it was worth sharing anyway!

13 hours ago, robdog said:

You are forgetting about Alphonse Davies, who bayscum recently bought from Vancouver WhiteCaps & guess what? Davies is 18 years old. I am sure CHO would be in competition with this guy, who has already been featured for The Senior Canadian National team. I am not so sure CHO is going to a better situation at bayscum than what he has here, but of course all of the talking heads are saying CHO needs to go away from Chelsea.

Ya I remember and was going to type that from what I've seen (rather limited viewing admittedly) they seem to be pretty similar and I've only seen Davies on the RW (again very limited). Even their physical build is quite similar.  You could argue that Davies literally just arrived and CHO would maybe be ahead based on the hype generated, but he'd definitely have a lot of work to get in that starting 11 at BM.

 

8 hours ago, Stim said:

Funnily enough I'm pretty sure CHO was taking corners against wednesday and I feel like nobody noticed.

CHO's passing wasn't good that game at all, agreed, but he also setup two goals with his crosses the game prior.....thing with Willian is that his corners aren't likely to improve much with more practice, but I think CHO's might.

Edited January 29, 20197 yr by Barry Bridges

11 minutes ago, Barry Bridges said:

Ya I remember and was going to type that from what I've seen (rather limited viewing admittedly) they seem to be pretty similar and I've only seen Davies on the RW (again very limited). Even their physical build is quite similar. 

Davies has already impressed the management at BM. Checkout his debut for BM.

 

I’m wondering what the „f**k him, the disrespectful/sulky twat“ people think about this news?

58 minutes ago, robdog said:

Davies has already impressed the management at BM. Checkout his debut for BM.

 

That's pretty impressive for someone who just came over from the MLS. I feel CHO would still be ahead of him if we're comparing head to head, but seems like he has serious potential. That nutmeg and turn at 1:20...wow 

Fantastic story too, from a Liberian refugee camp in Ghana to playing for Bayern Munich. I don't think he would've seen that in his wildest dreams. 

Best of luck to the kid. Hope he does well.....well enough that Bayern won't be back for CHO in the summer 

2 minutes ago, dustbin719 said:

That's pretty impressive for someone who just came over from the MLS. I feel CHO would still be ahead of him if we're comparing head to head, but seems like he has serious potential. That nutmeg and turn at 1:20...wow 

Fantastic story too, from a Liberian refugee camp in Ghana to playing for Bayern Munich. I don't think he would've seen that in his wildest dreams. 

Best of luck to the kid. Hope he does well.....well enough that Bayern won't be back for CHO in the summer 

I was thinking that BM were using CHO to motivate Davies even more

Oh look, he’s not for sale and he’s staying. Looks like ol’ Munkworth was right again!

14 minutes ago, Munkworth said:

Oh look, he’s not for sale and he’s staying. Looks like ol’ Munkworth was right again!

To Stay at Chelsea 

1/9

Nice to see Roman still takes an interest, obviously he's the one whose rejected the lad's transfer request, as for BM - jog on please and pester some  'feeder' clubs like Dippers or Gooners. 

2 hours ago, bluedave said:

I’m wondering what the „f**k him, the disrespectful/sulky twat“ people think about this news?

The club has said he's not going .

Has he retracted his transfer request?