19 minutes ago, evissy said:

Anyone wonder why players (Chelsea) who are the quickest on their feet (Werner, Broja, Jackson, Mudryk) are the most ones offside? Laws of physics would predict something else. 

They fail to engage brain before feet

4 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

I can't even get angry with Jacko , I feel desperately sorry for the geezer tbh 

Recently I watched clips of him from preseason, he played so freely and confidently I was genuinely impressed even though they were just friendlies. Holding the ball up, perfect runs behind defenders, great shots on target…

None of that is present at the moment, the best reason I can think of is that PL defenders don’t give you any space and don’t let you take your time on the ball, which he is struggling coming to grips with immensely. 

Or he just was never good enough and I was completely fooled.

Just want to point out Gvardiol is sh*t.  At least that’s one bullet dodged from the 50 we’ve already taken to the head

14 minutes ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

Agree about noni but disagree about lavia replacing calceido. Calceido clearly would play better further up the field and lavia deeper rather than them being direct replacements for each other.

Enzo could be out a while with his hernia issues. So, Lavia may be able to start with Caicedo and Conor. But Caicedo will have to improve massively or he should be dropped. He was mostly awful today. 

2 minutes ago, DarkMata said:

Just want to point out Gvardiol is sh*t.  At least that’s one bullet dodged from the 50 we’ve already taken to the head

Another relatively inexperienced yet promising centre back being played at left back ... 

Shouldn’t really be struggling and relying on a penalty to win the game against sh*t like Palace but a wins a win.

Final home game of the year  and we won !!Yay !!  Chelsea have conceded most goals in a calendar year since 1991 !! Thats pathetic when we spent billions. 😞 
Many positives though. Madueke should be starting line up.  Move Palmer to middle and build team around him. Defense needs to be sorted and stop playing center back as full backs.

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1 minute ago, fun2sh said:

Final game of the year  and we won !!Yay !!  Chelsea have conceded most goals in a calendar year since 1991 !! Thats pathetic when we spent billions. 😞 
Many positives though. Madueke should be starting line up.  Move Palmer to middle and build team around him. Defense needs to be sorted and stop playing center back as full backs.

Sorry to tell you, there's another one this year. Luton on the 30th.

5 minutes ago, Zeta said:

Sorry to tell you, there's another one this year. Luton on the 30th.

Oh damn, sorry, my bad then !!!:P

Edited December 27, 20232 yr by fun2sh

Good to get a win, but not seeing many green shoots of recovery. Is this really the style of play that Poch is setting us up to play.

We are still f**king about with no intensity. Almost had twice the possession and yet we had 9 shots on target compared to their 13 with 4 on target against 5.

We won when we were presented with a pen by a rash challenge when we lost the ball.

How have we managed to sign such a clumsy pair of centre backs who can’t really control and pass when we want to play out from the back. 🙈

10 minutes ago, fun2sh said:

Final home game of the year  and we won !!Yay !!  Chelsea have conceded most goals in a calendar year since 1991 !! Thats pathetic when we spent billions. 😞 
Many positives though. Madueke should be starting line up.  Move Palmer to middle and build team around him. Defense needs to be sorted and stop playing center back as full backs.

and not Stirling slowing down our attack today..  him and Jackson will both start next game 🙄 Madueke back on the bench 😢

Three points but in all honesty we weren’t very good. It’s just that Palace are worse than us. 

Caicedo really didn’t look fit. Surprised he was kept on for 90 mins. But I guess we don’t have too many options right now. Gallagher ran his socks off again.

For a pair of defenders, Disasi and Badashiele don’t look like they enjoy defending. And don’t enjoy playing out from the back either. While Colwill is all at sea playing left back. Gusto looked like the only competent defender on the pitch. So the manager then shunted him to the left wing, which nullified his attacking threat. Poch clearly doesn’t rate Maatsen as a left back, and we have two injured left backs right now, and a converted centre back, ahead of him. If not now, when? 

Mudryk was very bright first half, still has a tendency to try and take on the entire opposition before losing it. Totally disappeared second half. 

Nkunku and Lavia getting some game time is positive, but it’s going to be a long way back. They showed glimpses but understandably looked rusty.

Jackson just did Jackson things. Missed a sitter, was constantly offside. But looked a bit better with Nkunku on the pitch. 

Good to sneak a win, and Palmer and Sterling will be back fresh for the game at the weekend. So that’s something. 

 

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1 hour ago, dan_cfc said:

Shouldn’t really be struggling and relying on a penalty to win the game against sh*t like Palace but a wins a win.

Citeh drew at home against them.

Only saw the highlights, good movement by Mudryk in the first and that Cruf-type turn by Gusto to start off another attack was special.

Still think we will have ups and downs yet good to get the points today.

 

I get that be fact that we are a shadow of the side we were but some of the absolute pish being spouted tonight is unbelievable.

Fans only trust the project when we win. The rest of the season will likely be similar unless we get a goal scorer in Jan.

Poch is the man we have and has to be trusted to bring these youngsters on. It takes time and that’s what the rest of the season should be about.

Few observations 

- Cross looped over defender that lead to goal. 

I have seen this over and over and over again. Not sure how to fix this. Maybe put some trampoline on silva n colwill boots. 

- Petrovic is very good. 

Maybe we don't meet to sign a new gk. 

- Nkunku 

Just a completely different level of player. So composed, so skillful plus he win header in the box 😱😱😱 

The whole vibe of the team change with him. 

- Mudryk 

Mudyrk was very lively similar to  when Enzo was deployed left high (maybe even better because Nkunku is better). So when poch played Enzo on the left high stop complaining and who will feed Mudryk is not a joke 😁😁

 

 

 

3 points

 

8 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

 

Hahah .. he wasn’t the only one.. that was a terrible miss .. but the finish was right.. I compare this to what Sterling did where he tried to slot/ power the ball past the keeper at wolves..

Colwill is not a left back. Olise had the beating of him all the time because Colwill shows him outside, or Colwill rushed up. Just shouldn’t t  be playing in that position. 
 

very much doubt if Caicedo is fit. 
other than the miss Sterling played ok. 

3 minutes ago, ozboy said:

Colwill is not a left back. Olise had the beating of him all the time because Colwill shows him outside, or Colwill rushed up. Just shouldn’t t  be playing in that position. 
 

very much doubt if Caicedo is fit. 
other than the miss Sterling played ok. 

Sterling? You talking about the Wolves game Oz?

 

I like Roy Hodgson, proper football man, but wrong in his beliefs they should have won. Mudryk, Maatsen, Nkunku and Jackson all blew glorious openings to score, with Broja having a decent one on the half volley as well 

1 hour ago, ozboy said:

Colwill is not a left back. Olise had the beating of him all the time because Colwill shows him outside, or Colwill rushed up. Just shouldn’t t  be playing in that position. 
 

very much doubt if Caicedo is fit. 
other than the miss Sterling played ok. 

Agreed. I think that is why Poch moved Gusto over to LB. An attempt to close down Olise who was giving Colwill a torrid time. I know many have advocated for Maatsen at LB (myself included on a few occasions), but I am not sure he is good enough defensively. We should consider looking for another LB in January, as Chilwell has the same chronic injuries as Reece, and while Cucurella has had a few good games here and there he doesn't feel like a reliable option .

20 minutes ago, forbzy said:

Agreed. I think that is why Poch moved Gusto over to LB. An attempt to close down Olise who was giving Colwill a torrid time. I know many have advocated for Maatsen at LB (myself included on a few occasions), but I am not sure he is good enough defensively. We should consider looking for another LB in January, as Chilwell has the same chronic injuries as Reece, and while Cucurella has had a few good games here and there he doesn't feel like a reliable option .

Another LB? Unless we are moving on either Cucurella/Chilwell in Jan and good luck finding a buyer for either, I just can’t see it. We are paying the highest wages for the LB role in European football (around £410k/w for the pair), I can’t see how we can add a 3rd with no European football.

Irony is in Livramento & Aina we had 2 youngsters who could cover both flanks, and we let them go. Ideally come the summer we will have to lose the wages of one of James/Chilwell/Cucurella and sign a fullback who can cover both flanks. Balde at Barca is quality and can play both flanks but I can’t see Barca selling without us offering a record fee. 

1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

Sterling? You talking about the Wolves game Oz?

 

I like Roy Hodgson, proper football man, but wrong in his beliefs they should have won. Mudryk, Maatsen, Nkunku and Jackson all blew glorious openings to score, with Broja having a decent one on the half volley as well 

Jackson I mean not Sterling. Jackson held the ball ok and linked well with Nkunku. But a bad miss. 
‘also we clearly didn’t miss Silva. That’s not to say that Disasi and Badiashile didn’t make mistakes, they clearly did. But we had good tempo.