To be honest if it were up to me I would sell all of the attackers apart from Mount, every single one of them. They’ve all been trash this season.

33 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

To be honest if it were up to me I would sell all of the attackers apart from Mount, every single one of them. They’ve all been trash this season.

With the exception of Havertz?

8 hours ago, dansubrosa said:

To be honest if it were up to me I would sell all of the attackers apart from Mount, every single one of them. They’ve all been trash this season.

I've been a fan of Mount since he's been about 16/17 but I'm not sure why he gets a pass like he's Eden Hazard. He's been everybit as complicit to the attacking woes this season and was one of the main culprits to costing us the cup.

5 hours ago, Argo said:

I've been a fan of Mount since he's been about 16/17 but I'm not sure why he gets a pass like he's Eden Hazard. He's been everybit as complicit to the attacking woes this season and was one of the main culprits to costing us the cup.

He was our best attacker last season and the season before. He has been really poor this season which is abit surprising but I’ve still got faith in him to rediscover his form.

Havertz is a weird one but I feel he’s shown enough to be given more time. Werner, Lukaku and Hudson Odoi haven’t really shown why they should stay.

Pulisic was brilliant under Frank but he’s not shown any of that for so long and it’s starting to feel like he’s not going to be on that form again.

Ziyech, I guess he has the rest of season to stay consistent and if he does, then he’ll have earned his place.

14 hours ago, dansubrosa said:

To be honest if it were up to me I would sell all of the attackers apart from Mount, every single one of them. They’ve all been trash this season.

If everyone is bad then you've got to ask questions of the coaching or something else. 

All our defenders were trash under Frank. 

1 hour ago, bisright1 said:

If everyone is bad then you've got to ask questions of the coaching or something else. 

All our defenders were trash under Frank. 

Well said.. Makes no sense he isn’t getting 10% output out of any of them. I don’t buy the idea the are all awful.

1 hour ago, bisright1 said:

If everyone is bad then you've got to ask questions of the coaching or something else. 

All our defenders were trash under Frank. 

And what happens when our attackers were bad under Frank too? Because they were, if anything they have shown more more under Tuchel but I think reality is that many of them just aren't very good at all. Pulisic, Werner, Hudson Odoi and others shouldn't be anywhere near a club like Chelsea, they simply are not good enough and no manager will change that.

3 hours ago, dansubrosa said:

He was our best attacker last season and the season before. He has been really poor this season which is abit surprising but I’ve still got faith in him to rediscover his form.

Havertz is a weird one but I feel he’s shown enough to be given more time. Werner, Lukaku and Hudson Odoi haven’t really shown why they should stay.

Pulisic was brilliant under Frank but he’s not shown any of that for so long and it’s starting to feel like he’s not going to be on that form again.

Ziyech, I guess he has the rest of season to stay consistent and if he does, then he’ll have earned his place.

I think an issue is all of them have shown they're very good apart from goalscoring at this point.

Werner (last season) was an excellent stylistic fit but had obscene finishing issues, Kai in my opinion is fantastic as a striker in every way but (at this point) goal stats , Callum was fantastic in the Autumn in general play, Ziyech is starting to come into his own.

What I want is to see a non Lukaku trio given an extended run. Finishing aside we were really onto something with the Werner/Kai/Mount trio then again in the autumn with the Callum/Kai/Mount or Ziyech front three. At this point we can't lose by giving one of them or a variation of it (for example Werner/Kai/Ziyech looked good the few times it's been tried) a solid run and see what happens.

Is he injured, or just completely our of favour at the moment?

38 minutes ago, Zeta said:

Is he injured, or just completely our of favour at the moment?

Injured.

I'm not a huge fan of Mount but FFS we kinda need him at the moment, especially with Kovacic out...

On 28/04/2022 at 15:30, Zeta said:

Is he injured, or just completely our of favour at the moment?

Probably both. One to move on in the summer.

We have clearly missed him. The amount of chances that have gone wasted that CHO would have put away with ease. Think @Argo will agree with me here. 

13 hours ago, axman2526 said:

We have clearly missed him. The amount of chances that have gone wasted that CHO would have put away with ease. Think @Argo will agree with me here. 

No he wouldn’t even shoot. Remember this?

21 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

No he wouldn’t even shoot. Remember this?

Yes. He passed and it was intercepted by a Brighton player's hand. VAR didn't even check, and of course they equalised in injury time.

On 29/04/2022 at 21:48, axman2526 said:

We have clearly missed him. The amount of chances that have gone wasted that CHO would have put away with ease. Think @Argo will agree with me here. 

In fairness he is our best attacker in terms of chances created per minute (by quite some distance). Since he's been gone we look markedly less creative, just look at todays game

I really hate Everton, the sh*tty way they try to play, where was this passion earlier in the season, time wasting c**ts..

CHO > Werner.

1 minute ago, Gol15 said:

CHO > Werner.

Neither should be playing for us. 

Werner not good enough and CHO still raw. 

CHO is not good enough and has not showed enough at any point to justify a regular place in the team. The fact that others are also sh*t (Werner, Puli, Havertz) doesnt change the fact that CHO isnt good enough.

50 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

In fairness he is our best attacker in terms of chances created per minute (by quite some distance). Since he's been gone we look markedly less creative, just look at todays game

Stats that make him look better than he actually is.

31 minutes ago, jack_super_class said:

Stats that make him look better than he actually is.

I hate those kinds of stats personally. I remember people using those kinds of stats to justify bringing Morata here.

17 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

I hate those kinds of stats personally. I remember people using those kinds of stats to justify bringing Morata here.

I haven't missed CHO one little bit. I haven't forgotten his horrible finishing this season. Him being injured again no surprise either.

Get ready for Pre season when everyone will talk on twitter like hes a new player again.

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Neither should be playing for us. 

Werner not good enough and CHO still raw. 

CHO isn't "raw". He's not good enough, simple as.

Ship him off.

1 hour ago, jack_super_class said:

I haven't missed CHO one little bit. I haven't forgotten his horrible finishing this season. Him being injured again no surprise either.

Get ready for Pre season when everyone will talk on twitter like hes a new player again.

Same here Jack. He has no aggression in his game. No urgency. There's no edge to him at all. Same for Werner, but CHO is technically much better.

Personally the four main players I would look to offload this summer are Lukaku, Werner, Jorginho and CHO. There are others, but these are the major ones for me.