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6 hours ago, Jangz said:

I agree actually Ancelotti sacking was mad but I do believe that the Mourinho sacking was insane. 
City has won 8 titles in 14 years .. we should have had atleast 2-3 more titles in our time at the top.. we celebrate the sackings as Standards FC but I think we shot ourselves and probably under achieved .. 

after the second season win with Mourinho we had two free transfers in fckin sidwell..and the German striker I forget now.

after the ancelotti win we had Raul M in midfield.. after conte of all the Monaco jewels we bought in baka.

Jose Mk2 wanted stones what did we get him. I really believe we fcked up every opportunity to dominate.. so sad.

Would love to hear an inside track as to what went on in the dressing room with Jose Mark 2. Normally the truth emerges when players retire and write autobiography’s. However players from that period no longer need the dough a book would provide. Unless I’m wrong, JT was pretty silent on the matter when interviewed by Simon Jordan.

Personally think the it’s so unfair, referees and the Premier League are against us, siege mentality he created backfired. If anything refs refused to be cowed by him and gave 50/50 decisions against us as a result.

No idea whether he lost the changing room or not, but he wasn’t a ray of sunshine that’s for sure. Funny how things change; the perception back then was that you had to apply pressure on officials, and be a generally nasty bastard to succeed as a Premiership manager. Ala Jose and Fergie. Then out of nowhere cutie pie Ranieri wins the league, and a nice guy albeit slightly animated Pep claims 6 out of the last 7 titles….

On 20/05/2024 at 05:18, SydneyChelsea said:

Sacking Mourinho in 2007 was daft but I think there was far more on Mourinho's side going on than he was willing to admit. A 0-0 draw to Rosenborg, FFS.

Mourinho was frustrated with our transfer dealings yes, and rightly so given we replaced Arjen Robben with Florent Malouda, but was it all that justified? Mourinho himself was reportedly fed-up with Duff and Robben's injury problems, and as much as Joe Cole improved he was clearly never Mourinho's ideal player and in fact won POTY the season he left. Let's not forget that a useless f**ker like Avram Grant narrowly missed out on the CL and EPL with the exact same squad. If anything, that underlines that Mourinho was failing to get the best out of a talented bunch of players, and instead focusing his energies on other things.

As for Ancelotti, while the manner of his sacking was classless and a stain on the club,  I freely accept I am in the minority here but the sacking itself wasn't completely unjustified.

Despite winning the title in 2009/10 let's not forget how close that title race was, against a somewhat depleted Manchester United side having lost Ronaldo and Tevez, and especially what happened in Nov-Dec 2009. Fast forward a year and despite blowing away teams Aug - October 2010, we had an even worse collapse in Nov - Jan. It's pretty reasonable to be worried that was a pattern of results with Ancelotti and he seemed to have no clue how to arrest it. I have a core memory of @just criticising Ancelotti for being completely unable to change matches in the match threads at the time - though of course anything @just says about Italian football, Italians or Italy in general might need to be taken with a grain of salt 😉

However, I don't think the league performance was the biggest factor in his sacking, it was the performance of our exits in the Champions League when that was a clear priority for the club. 

@Argo has previously pointed out the significance of our QF exits under Ancelotti, both were relatively meek given how dominant the team were domestically at the time, and in stark contrast to the spirited displays of 2008 and 2009 that made us feel the Champions League was within our reach. The narrative around both exits shifted to suggest that Ancelotti's pants were pulled down by both Jose Mourinho and SAF, which really would have stung the club hierarchy. Ancelotti was also reasonably well backed in the transfer market, Roman would have felt he gift-wrapped him the best striker in the league at that point and Ancelotti couldn't get a tune out of him, not to mention the money spent on Ramires to replace Ballack. Given how untouchable the midfield and forward veterans were the only real oversight was not brining in a top-class CB to replace Carvalho, though Alex was a fine replacement.

Yes. Guilty as charged. When it came to rolling the dice and making bold subtitutions, Ancelotti was very much a reactive manager rather than an proactive manager in those days.

And some of my all time favourite players are Italian. Maldini,  Baresi, Baggio. Of course that was way back in the days when Serie A was the top league in world football. And make no mistake, I'm all for getting another Zola or Di Matteo. But I'm totally against anymore Christian Panuccis, Gabriele Ambrosettis or Sam Dalla Bonos. I know he's not Italian but Juan Cuadrado? No thank you very much.

Scott Minto the latest pundit to say " since the owners came in they've put their hands in their pockets and spent a billion on trying to bring young talent to the club"

No , spending on players and transfers has to come from our club's income stream, 

They are spending Chelsea FC's money and brought us to the brink of breaching the rules on spending to the point that selling players is seen as a way around it..

And remember, our club was debt free when they bought us.

7 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

Scott Minto the latest pundit to say " since the owners came in they've put their hands in their pockets and spent a billion on trying to bring young talent to the club"

No , spending on players and transfers has to come from our club's income stream, 

They are spending Chelsea FC's money and brought us to the brink of breaching the rules on spending to the point that selling players is seen as a way around it..

And remember, our club was debt free when they bought us.

I couldn't get past "Scott Minto the latest pundit..."  Thank you for the distraction! 

33 minutes ago, icecoolguy22 said:

Now Poch's gone, cleared the hurdle to sell the likes of Gallagher, Chalobah.

I feel like this is what it's all about.

All of those on Twitter saying this and that, but I think it's more simple. Pochettino wants to keep Gallagher and Chalobah, especially Gallagher, and they are going to sell them anyway. The relationship can't work, I don't think it can work with any coach. 

2 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

I feel like this is what it's all about.

All of those on Twitter saying this and that, but I think it's more simple. Pochettino wants to keep Gallagher and Chalobah, especially Gallagher, and they are going to sell them anyway. The relationship can't work, I don't think it can work with any coach. 

Ironically, the only coach in the world who doesn't give a toss about transfers, board politics, club staff etc. is Thomas Tuchel and they supposedly sacked him because he didn't want to be involved in any of that

Let’s hope in  another 8 seasons most of us are still around because that is when the first opportunity is for these 🤡 s to sell the club. 
We will never get a  benevolent owner like Roman again but any entity that appreciates building a 🏆 winning machine would be most welcome. I’ll be close to 70 that really hurts because Clearfake  🎪 at Stamford Bridge will most likely outlive me 🙁
 

EIGHT more years of this inept f**kery for sure. I picked the wrong year it seems to give up alcohol and smoking herb🥹  and now regret dropping $500 a couple of weeks ago to fly up north for the pre season vs Wrexham  🤦🏻 

The more I read, I'm starting to come to the conclusion that the Pochettino decision was driven by Eghbali/Clearlake (the majority shareholders) rather than Boehly who had a reportedly more favourable opinion of Pochettino.

They're all impulsive and stupid, but Eghbali seems to be the biggest problem among them.

1 hour ago, Jezz said:

The more I read, I'm starting to come to the conclusion that the Pochettino decision was driven by Eghbali/Clearlake (the majority shareholders) rather than Boehly who had a reportedly more favourable opinion of Pochettino.

They're all impulsive and stupid, but Eghbali seems to be the biggest problem among them.

Egghead dropped 100+ mill on Enzo at the last minute when there was no competition for him and it's getting worse.

4 hours ago, Jezz said:

The more I read, I'm starting to come to the conclusion that the Pochettino decision was driven by Eghbali/Clearlake (the majority shareholders) rather than Boehly who had a reportedly more favourable opinion of Pochettino.

They're all impulsive and stupid, but Eghbali seems to be the biggest problem among them.

I agree

It feels like Eghbali/Winstanley/Stewart vs Boehly to me ... 3 vs 1. 

I'm expecting Boehly to be increasingly sidelined, and I am pretty sure he will be replaced as Chairman at the earliest opportunity, A real shame that Boehly and Mark Walter aren't majority shareholders, as they are the ones that have the pedigree in making a sports team elite (albeit Boehly clearly made mistakes in the first few months with us)

 

2 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

I agree

It feels like Eghbali/Winstanley/Stewart vs Boehly to me ... 3 vs 1. 

I'm expecting Boehly to be increasingly sidelined, and I am pretty sure he will be replaced as Chairman at the earliest opportunity, A real shame that Boehly and Mark Walter aren't majority shareholders, as they are the ones that have the pedigree in making a sports team elite (albeit Boehly clearly made mistakes in the first few months with us)

 

Yeah the positive comments by Bohley and dinner seem to suggest a difference between Bohley and Egbad. Clearly one was for Poch and the other against. 

10 minutes ago, JM7 said:

-Tuchel £10m pay off
-Potter £34.5m buyout + pay off
-Poch £6m estimated pay off

£50.5m in pay offs & compensation in 24 months.

Plus whatever they will have to pay to secure the release of the next guy ....

Sell Gallagher because he starts ahead of one of their £100m signings and they can't take that.

Sell Chalobah because he starts ahead of their expensively assembled defence.

Dash Pochettino because he's the only one involved with elite football pedigree.

Who thought 10 years of being locked in was a good idea?

We had every manager under the sun who was available interested last season, you choose Pochettino for whatever reason and only gave him a 2 year contract. Then he leaves anyway....

I just don't understand why they brought an elite football club why not buy a mid table one where the fans aren't used to certain standards and then they can try their wacky methods. I don't think they understand this is some of our lives. 

I generally compare the situation to having a child. Imagine you have a daughter and then she gets pregnant by some utter waste of space loser and then even worse she marries the loser. Now you're stuck with him for however long until he eff's off. Its sad because you love your daughter and grandchild but you can't stand this person who's joined your family. That's how I feel about this ownership and its how I would compare being a fan of this club 😂

Roman leaving broke my heart, Tuchel leaving broke my heart. Pochettino for all his faults felt like light at the end of the tunnel and even that's gone. Seriously how bad of an infrastructure must we have for a man who put up with Levy for 5 years to be done with us after 1..... 

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