Everybody is pointing their fingers at Havertz and Werner, but instead of looking for a scape goat, look at us collectively. Werner wasn't the reason why we lost today, neither were Havertz, they were part of the reason, but not THE reason. 

We aren't playing well as a team right now, it's not just those two players that have dropped form. Mount has been as bad as anybody of late, but he works hard so he's going under the radar, his quality on the ball has been horrendous. Chilwell has gone very quiet, he can't deliver a single decent ball into the box unless its from a corner and isn't exactly bringing any excitement to our attacks. Mendy is making mistakes that is costing us goals, Zouma's defending is still a bit all over the place for me too. 

Lampard's tactics are the biggest issue though. He's not adapting to the situation at hand. Why is he sticking to the same formation and tactics no matter the condition of our squad or team we play against? With everybody fit and everybody in form, 4-3-3 is the way to go for us, but we have 2 injured wingers and one unfit winger, the answer is not to just fill in those positions with any player available and hope things work out. 

7 minutes ago, PloKoon13 said:

I was encouraged by Pulisic's performance - it was good to see him making a difference again in the final third rather than looking beardy insipid.

As usual Mount and Kanté were encouraging. For once James wasn't.

Overall I don't think we were good and I think we played into their hands, but I think a draw was a fair result. Let's not get into the ref's overall performance...

Not a chance did we deserve a draw. We bent over and presented our arses for them to firmly rogered as soon as we went one up. It was awful. 

Wolves fully deserved that win. As soon as they upped their game our midfield bar Kante stopped playing and even he was loose with  possession on too many occasions. 

Havertz and Kovacic offered nothing other than encouraging Wolves to think they could win it. 

Werner either has to be in the centre or be on the bench. It's pointless starting him as a wide player. I'd rather we shoved a winger from the youth team on than watch Werner look look like a St Mirren reserve. 

 

All players looked low-energy and tired, except probably Kante...We don't manage our games well now and also look very predictable in front of goal. So many teams are playing really well this year that it's hard to see us getting Top 4 at this point.

2 minutes ago, Pob said:

I wonder if he’d accept bringing on an experienced manager alongside him to help? Akin to Rafa but perhaps not someone who is currently managing another side.

Excellent idea, let’s bring in Alan Curbishley.

Can't start games carrying a passenger. 

but we'll done Wolves especially with the injuries.  

Just now, Pob said:

Maybe a manager who has won something of note!

He won the FA Cup with Portsmouth. Don’t say that’s not an important trophy or @Eight Times will come for you in your sleep! 

1 minute ago, Pob said:

Maybe a manager who has won something of note!

Anyone but rafa

Can Lampard explain why Pulisic was switched to the right wing. It makes no f**king sense

8 minutes ago, Slojo said:

Kurt Zouma as always, having that mistake in him when he's put to the test. Time and time again you'll see it, he might be a very dangerous man, built like a mythological beast from Greece, but he's not Chelsea material. 

Oh dear.. 

2 minutes ago, Munkworth said:

Uncle ‘arry!

Not even joking. For god sake don't say his name three times.

Just now, Munkworth said:

He won the FA Cup with Portsmouth. Don’t say that’s not an important trophy or @Eight Times will come for you in your sleep! 

? Fair point, I’d overlooked that - though he had to bankrupt them to manage that.

Just now, Munkworth said:

He won the FA Cup with Portsmouth. Don’t say that’s not an important trophy or @Eight Times will come for you in your sleep! 

Anyone that wins anything with Pompy deserves  maximum respect, didn't he also win I'm a celeb?

1 minute ago, Scott Harris said:

Everybody is pointing their fingers at Havertz and Werner, but instead of looking for a scape goat, look at us collectively. Werner wasn't the reason why we lost today, neither were Havertz, they were part of the reason, but not THE reason. 

We aren't playing well as a team right now, it's not just those two players that have dropped form. Mount has been as bad as anybody of late, but he works hard so he's going under the radar, his quality on the ball has been horrendous. Chilwell has gone very quiet, he can't deliver a single decent ball into the box unless its from a corner and isn't exactly bringing any excitement to our attacks. Mendy is making mistakes that is costing us goals, Zouma's defending is still a bit all over the place for me too. 

Lampard's tactics are the biggest issue though. He's not adapting to the situation at hand. Why is he sticking to the same formation and tactics no matter the condition of our squad or team we play against? With everybody fit and everybody in form, 4-3-3 is the way to go for us, but we have 2 injured wingers and one unfit winger, the answer is not to just fill in those positions with any player available and hope things work out. 

I have seen some great teams on paper that didn't work out in practice, mostly national teams. It's the manager's job to make things work, you can't just buy a whole bunch of exciting players and mash them up together and expect that it will just automatically work, sometimes it might work but not always.

1 minute ago, Scott Harris said:

Everybody is pointing their fingers at Havertz and Werner, but instead of looking for a scape goat, look at us collectively. Werner wasn't the reason why we lost today, neither were Havertz, they were part of the reason, but not THE reason. 

We aren't playing well as a team right now, it's not just those two players that have dropped form. Mount has been as bad as anybody of late, but he works hard so he's going under the radar, his quality on the ball has been horrendous. Chilwell has gone very quiet, he can't deliver a single decent ball into the box unless its from a corner and isn't exactly bringing any excitement to our attacks. Mendy is making mistakes that is costing us goals, Zouma's defending is still a bit all over the place for me too. 

Lampard's tactics are the biggest issue though. He's not adapting to the situation at hand. Why is he sticking to the same formation and tactics no matter the condition of our squad or team we play against? With everybody fit and everybody in form, 4-3-3 is the way to go for us, but we have 2 injured wingers and one unfit winger, the answer is not to just fill in those positions with any player available and hope things work out. 

"How dare you critised Lampard tactcits he's a genius high IQ and all you are off my Christmas card list"

12 minutes ago, Floyd25 said:

Probably Heinz, but still yea, go f**k yourself. At least your boyfriend scumworth finds you funny I guess. 

Oh, Munkie is right, that has a whiff of homophobia, among other unpleasantness.

Come on Floyd, you're not usually like this! Disappointment speaking?

8 minutes ago, Brutos said:

This is squarely on the manager we have a better team than wolves even with injures they are missing their best player and we still lose. Lampard is just looks like he doesn't know how to react to difficult moments in the games 

Hard to argue with that.

So disappointing and Lamps has to accept some blame today. So predictable that subs would be left to 70+ minutes and you knew it would be Tammy and Kova for Giroud and Havertz. It was completely uninspiring - pretty much like the whole performance. I guess commendable that at 1-1 in injury time we pushed for the winner but we never looked like scoring a second, whereas they looked much more lively on the break and I had a gut feeling they would nick it. Sometimes, just be happy with the 1 point - re-group and fight another day. Really poor today in so many areas - especially game management.

10 minutes ago, Slojo said:

Kurt Zouma as always, having that mistake in him when he's put to the test. Time and time again you'll see it, he might be a very dangerous man, built like a mythological beast from Greece, but he's not Chelsea material. 

Once I saw it was Zouma and then he was clumsily backing up I knew we screwed.

Just now, Brutos said:

"How dare you critised Lampard tactcits he's a genius high IQ and all you are off my Christmas card list"

Can I go on your list, I love super frank

Very frustrating to lose to Everton and Wolves should be winnable matches 

Got to take the rough with the smooth lads. No one is running away with it, Frank could freshen up a couple of positions but he will get there, we are still dominating games. 

An overall bad performance. Werner and Havertz completely disappointed in this match.

Shame that Zouma didn't score from this chance, would probably be a completely different match with a 0-2 lead. Still a very disappointing performance.

7 minutes ago, loz said:

Not a chance did we deserve a draw. We bent over and presented our arses for them to firmly rogered as soon as we went one up. It was awful. 

Sorry I missed it 

1 minute ago, Valerie said:

Oh, Munkie is right, that has a whiff of homophobia, among other unpleasantness.

Come on Floyd, you're not usually like this! Disappointment speaking?

I don't think anyone was actually offended, everyone has their off day...mine was against Everton. Hopefully  he'll  be back for the weekend. Maybe I shouldn't of wound him up so much. But if I'm  totally  honest I haven't  laughed that much in ages. I kinda like floyd now especially seeing as he prefers Heinz 

7 minutes ago, loz said:

Not a chance did we deserve a draw. We bent over and presented our arses for them to firmly rogered as soon as we went one up. It was awful. 

Wolves fully deserved that win. As soon as they upped their game our midfield bar Kante stopped playing and even he was loose with  possession on too many occasions. 

Havertz and Kovacic offered nothing other than encouraging Wolves to think they could win it. 

Werner either has to be in the centre or be on the bench. It's pointless starting him as a wide player. I'd rather we shoved a winger from the youth team on than watch Werner look look like a St Mirren reserve. 

 

St mirren reserve. Thanks for making me laugh Loz ?

1 minute ago, BlueKid145 said:

An overall bad performance. Werner and Havertz completely disappointed in this match.

Shame that Zouma didn't score from this chance, would probably be a completely different match with a 0-2 lead. Still a very disappointing performance.

To be fair, it may have been a different game had they not scored from a corner which shouldn’t have been. Isn’t VAR allowed to look at that?

We should have defended it better, though.

20 minutes ago, Butterhampton FC said:

You can hide behind the fact that Werner is not being played in his primary position but I thought his nickname was Turbo Timo? The guy can't beat a single opposition player for pace.  

When has he ever been in the position to beat a player for pace? The ball is played to him in wide areas where he is being asked to play crosses into the box or take on the defender and beat them with skill like Pulisic or Hazard. That isn't Werner, Werner got his nickname from balls being fed through to him that he could run onto and beat his man for pace to score a goal or set up a team mate.