May 20, 20188 yr I’ve always liked Willian, but I can’t excuse that behaviour. We don’t know what happened and Conte has possibly been a bit out of order, but you don’t expect a 29 year old man to be this childish. So it’s either Willian leaves or Conte leaves, mind you, couldn’t that be the case with Luiz and more importantly Hazard?
May 20, 20188 yr 3 minutes ago, enigma said: Let's be honest, it's only been with Mourinho and Conte and what is the common denominator. I don't see the same issues with other players and their managers. Maybe the players are just totally fed up of the negative tactics when they feel they can be much more effective in a positive system. I wouldn't be surprised to start hearing Utd players coming out bemoaning tactics soon if things don't change there too. You can be successful playing other styles of football, and flair players like Willian, Hazard etc probably feel the tactics and style of football are stifling them. It's really not it happened with Raneri, Scolari and AVB too. It's been more than a couple clearly Edited May 20, 20188 yr by Chelsbear
May 20, 20188 yr 1 hour ago, enigma said: Silly thing to do on social media for people to see, but then again most footballers are a bit dim. Saying that, it seems Conte has had less than a stellar impact on a few of the players during his time here. First Costa, then whatever went on with Luiz, then Rudiger, Hazard doesn't seem to be a fan of our style of football, neither does Fabregas, now Willian. He obviously favours Bakayoko over Barkley or Drinkwater too. Are you a fan of our football this season? I am not, has been turgid and boring almost every game. However we are fans and not employeed by Chelsea fc. Willian is, that is a childish move. Hopefully Roman sees that and sends him on his way. Conte is still manager. He deserve a respect publicly from the players.
May 20, 20188 yr 20 minutes ago, enigma said: Let's be honest, it's only been with Mourinho and Conte and what is the common denominator. I don't see the same issues with other players and their managers. Maybe the players are just totally fed up of the negative tactics when they feel they can be much more effective in a positive system. I wouldn't be surprised to start hearing Utd players coming out bemoaning tactics soon if things don't change there too. You can be successful playing other styles of football, and flair players like Willian, Hazard etc probably feel the tactics and style of football are stifling them. Cesc, Willian and Luiz can go if Conte stays. There's 3 of the 4 who seem to have the biggest issue with him and none of them will be irreplaceable. Jose has already laid the groundwork to fight against anyone who speaks ill of his tactics. He's made it clear a significant portion of his players aren't up for it and unless it's Lukaku or Pogba who revolt they'll just be labeled weak and unworthy off the back of his comments. Antonio doesn't have this foresight/cynicism. Edited May 20, 20188 yr by TheChelseaBlues
May 20, 20188 yr Unnacceptable insubordiation really. I'd prefer Martial over him so a potential swap makes sense.
May 20, 20188 yr Tbf i've seen him misplace so many passes over the seasons he probably didn't mean to put the trophies there and was trying to put them elsewhere.
May 20, 20188 yr I see why people are getting on Willian's back for this and to be honest it does look bad. But, to play devil's advocate and given we don't know the reason behind the tweet, he could just as easily be suggesting that Conte is trophies and is a perennial winner.
May 20, 20188 yr Thoroughly unprofessional...and honestly, not at all what I would have expected from Willian. If there's one thing I'd have never questioned of him, it would be his professionalism. Very disappointing. Even if you don't get on with the manager, it's so unnecessary. Post the picture without the cups on Conte...seriously. How hard is it to do that?
May 20, 20188 yr Pathetic and childish. But to get rid of him would be to throw the baby out with the bathwater. I would say he was one of five/six players we will need next season to form our spine. Tibo Rudi Dave Kante Hazard/Willian
May 20, 20188 yr Pathetic behaviour actually embarrassed for him you would expect it off Musonda but not from someone like Willian.
May 20, 20188 yr f**king pathetic from Willian- he should be ashamed of himself. Obviously he has beef with Conte, but regardless of whats going on behind the scenes, there are ways of doing things, and trying to make some sort of point by emojis on social media if f**king pathetic. The day after we won the FA Cup as well. Complete prick.
May 20, 20188 yr Willian, like many other players from Brazil is very childish and the fact that he is almost 30 years old doesn't help him.
May 20, 20188 yr 3 hours ago, BordeauxBlue said: Unnacceptable insubordiation really. I'd prefer Martial over him so a potential swap makes sense. Would rather 50mill and we use CHO and mason mount
May 20, 20188 yr That is really silly. He must be 30 going on 13. I seem to remember Costa doing something similar last season, although he was no longer our player so it wasn’t quite as bad. It makes me wonder if there could be a longstanding tiff between Conte and the Brazilian clique. Add to that the mysterious disappearance of David Luiz.
May 20, 20188 yr I know it’s not popular but I wouldn’t be opposed a swap deal with Martial. Willian who is 30 years old and we would be getting a young striker. I hate having to do these type of deals but if we’re tight on money then we have to compromise. Let’s face it, Willian isn’t exactly a prolific AM. He’s just a workhorse.
May 20, 20188 yr 8 minutes ago, JM7 said: I know it’s not popular but I wouldn’t be opposed a swap deal with Martial. Willian who is 30 years old and we would be getting a young striker. I hate having to do these type of deals but if we’re tight on money then we have to compromise. Let’s face it, Willian isn’t exactly a prolific AM. He’s just a workhorse. I think if it’s a possibility we should do it. Martial under the right manager and playing CF (he’s not a winger) could be superb.
May 20, 20188 yr Really sad to see that, The players social media is rather constrained and neutered as it is so he's probably broken a shed load of internal rules. Internal fine and disciplinary action. But for gods sake don't sell any more players to Utd.
May 20, 20188 yr I am sick of seeing us sell our players to rivals, but I was actually coming round to the idea of swapping Willian with martial. After seeing how utterly childish Willian was with that tweet, I think we should refuse him a move to United. Maybe some team in China will pay big money for him, he's chased the money once, and im sure he would chase it again.
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