Sacking Tuchel was beyond a disastous decision , but serious questions need to be asked over who he relayed the head physio and doctor with too. 

The bigger worry here, is that we aren't owned by someone who is bankrolling the club himself, who can write off costly mistakes. We are financed by an investment firm. They will only go so far and then expect their money and more, back. We've spent hundreds of millions of pounds of players and staff, on huge, long contracts, and are looking dreadful. We are stuck with them now. How can Boehley go to his bosses and say, look, I know I just signed this manager and all his staff 3 months ago, but let's spend 60m getting rid of them now. It's just not going to happen. We are well and truly f**ked for the foreseeable future.

I don't know why people keep going on about the Tuchel sacking. I think the sacking was inevitable, but I do agree that they got the timing wrong.

I have no doubts that results would have continued to be poor, so it would have been better to have increasing reasons to sack Tuchel. Due to it being later in the season, the new manager would have had less pressure as people would be forced to accept that top four is already gone.

Besides, the guy refused to communicate with the owners. How many people would keep their jobs if they refused to talk with their boss? Not a single one.

 

I don't think it is all Boehly's fault, anyway. We have actually been run quite poorly for several seasons under Abramovich, also. Our signings being terrible isn't a new thing under these owners; it has happened for years. 

Edited January 12, 20233 yr by Chelsc96

3 minutes ago, Zeta said:

The bigger worry here, is that we aren't owned by someone who is bankrolling the club himself, who can write off costly mistakes. We are financed by an investment firm. They will only go so far and then expect their money and more, back. We've spent hundreds of millions of pounds of players and staff, on huge, long contracts, and are looking dreadful. We are stuck with them now. How can Boehley go to his bosses and say, look, I know I just signed this manager and all his staff 3 months ago, but let's spend 60m getting rid of them now. It's just not going to happen. We are well and truly f**ked for the foreseeable future.

This is the real truth and it sucks 

4 minutes ago, Zeta said:

The bigger worry here, is that we aren't owned by someone who is bankrolling the club himself, who can write off costly mistakes. We are financed by an investment firm. They will only go so far and then expect their money and more, back. We've spent hundreds of millions of pounds of players and staff, on huge, long contracts, and are looking dreadful. We are stuck with them now. How can Boehley go to his bosses and say, look, I know I just signed this manager and all his staff 3 months ago, but let's spend 60m getting rid of them now. It's just not going to happen. We are well and truly f**ked for the foreseeable future.

Looking the case. 

9 minutes ago, Zeta said:

The bigger worry here, is that we aren't owned by someone who is bankrolling the club himself, who can write off costly mistakes. We are financed by an investment firm. They will only go so far and then expect their money and more, back. We've spent hundreds of millions of pounds of players and staff, on huge, long contracts, and are looking dreadful. We are stuck with them now. How can Boehley go to his bosses and say, look, I know I just signed this manager and all his staff 3 months ago, but let's spend 60m getting rid of them now. It's just not going to happen. We are well and truly f**ked for the foreseeable future.

The honest truth is that that is how most clubs are run. We were spoiled under Roman since he didn't care about costs and wanted us to win no matter what. Most clubs take a business first approach.

Boehly is acting like this is an American team tanking for a high draft pick. 

15 minutes ago, HonoreMeiBalsac said:

Boehly is acting like this is an American team tanking for a high draft pick. 

I was thinking the same. He does know that you can't just tank a season right? 😉

Can anyone verify this, I refuse to believe this is true without a reliable source.

Either way Boehly is so far out of his depth as one of the owners as Potter is as our coach 

 

Edited January 13, 20233 yr by LongtimerLurker

I don’t think Todd Boehly has any real knowledge on how to run a football club, if I’m honest. I think Chelsea are going to really struggle to adjust in the next few years, Abramovich was for all his faults someone who broadly understood football enough to make winning appointments and now Chelsea have someone who will just pick based on name value and then will fail to follow an overarching philosophy.

 

Todd you was lucky to get this club, either grow a pair or sell up 👍

They got to take over a club free of debt thanks to Roman's kindness and the corrupt British government.

In a short amount of time they have manage to plung us back in to debt and have us closer to the Championship than the title.

We will be lucky if there is a Chelsea Football Club left in 9 and a half years.

2 hours ago, Chelsc96 said:

I don't know why people keep going on about the Tuchel sacking. I think the sacking was inevitable, but I do agree that they got the timing wrong.

I have no doubts that results would have continued to be poor, so it would have been better to have increasing reasons to sack Tuchel. Due to it being later in the season, the new manager would have had less pressure as people would be forced to accept that top four is already gone.

Besides, the guy refused to communicate with the owners. How many people would keep their jobs if they refused to talk with their boss? Not a single one.

I don't think it is all Boehly's fault, anyway. We have actually been run quite poorly for several seasons under Abramovich, also. Our signings being terrible isn't a new thing under these owners; it has happened for years. 

Tuchel was well on his way to be sacked after poor early season results extending from last season and major issues behind the scenes both at the club and in his personal life.

The timing of it was strange, so it would have been better to pull the plug in the summer or during the WC rather than 6 games into a new season where Potter didn't have the benefit of a pre-season and the ability to have a say in new signings when money was being splashed everywhere.

Tuchel was great in his early days of his Chelsea tenure, but I don't miss him. The problem we have now is we may have appointed the wrong replacement.

1 hour ago, Ibby_786 said:

I don’t think Todd Boehly has any real knowledge on how to run a football club, if I’m honest. I think Chelsea are going to really struggle to adjust in the next few years, Abramovich was for all his faults someone who broadly understood football enough to make winning appointments and now Chelsea have someone who will just pick based on name value and then will fail to follow an overarching philosophy.

 

Todd you was lucky to get this club, either grow a pair or sell up 👍

Abramovich knew how to run a successful business from the ground up. 

Things were not always rosy and we have suffered the brunt of it now that he's left but it was clear who ran the ship and kept it going strong. 

He was also kind enough to leave the club at it's absolute peak before walking away.

Todd is just another Wall Street guy thinking he knows how to beat the system

6 hours ago, LongtimerLurker said:

Can anyone verify this, I refuse to believe this is true without a reliable source.

Either way Boehly is so far out of his depth as one of the owners as Potter is as our coach 

 

Is true, have seen on the athletic. It's intended to be a stop gap. But before anyone gets too het up, our medical problems existed before this wave, so in what sounds like a familiar story, the sacking was right but what came next seems to be worse, and hopefully it gets better. 

But even then, what the f**k is happening to cause injuries. Are we just signing ledley kings who get injured? (really excited to see Nkunku join and have the same issues!). Are we working them too hard in training? Let's be honest, the medical teams we have now will be 10x better than anything we had in the 90s, so how is this happening. 

8 hours ago, Chelsc96 said:

I don't know why people keep going on about the Tuchel sacking. I think the sacking was inevitable, but I do agree that they got the timing wrong.

I have no doubts that results would have continued to be poor, so it would have been better to have increasing reasons to sack Tuchel. Due to it being later in the season, the new manager would have had less pressure as people would be forced to accept that top four is already gone.

Besides, the guy refused to communicate with the owners. How many people would keep their jobs if they refused to talk with their boss? Not a single one.

 

I don't think it is all Boehly's fault, anyway. We have actually been run quite poorly for several seasons under Abramovich, also. Our signings being terrible isn't a new thing under these owners; it has happened for years. 

The only point I would challenge slightly here and I know I'm nitpicking slightly, is this narrative the Abramovich is at fault because of the way he ran the club. He didn't run the club. He bankrolled the club and would make ultimate decisions regarding his managers. Occasionally he made errors in his choices for certain players where sentiment came into play, such as Sheva.

Bruce Buck and the others ran the club. They were the ones managing the affairs of the club on a daily basis.

Often fans have a way of revising history. Emenalo was the cause for all our sh*t signing. Then when he left and Marina took over he was right after all and she was rubbish. We're doing it again now with Boehly.

For me all of this is irrelevant. Eddie Howe is getting a tune out if Joelinton and Almiron, who the Newcastle fans have hated for years. I want to see some development, some inkling, of a style of football that we can all enjoy watching. My biggest concern in that regard is the fact that it has been a known fact tor a number of years Potter's teams don't score enough goals.

6 hours ago, Jezz said:

Tuchel was well on his way to be sacked after poor early season results extending from last season and major issues behind the scenes both at the club and in his personal life.

The timing of it was strange, so it would have been better to pull the plug in the summer or during the WC rather than 6 games into a new season where Potter didn't have the benefit of a pre-season and the ability to have a say in new signings when money was being splashed everywhere.

Tuchel was great in his early days of his Chelsea tenure, but I don't miss him. The problem we have now is we may have appointed the wrong replacement.

20m in order to get Potter + 15m to get him Felix. Should have gone for Zidane.

8 hours ago, Ibby_786 said:

I don’t think Todd Boehly has any real knowledge on how to run a football club, if I’m honest. I think Chelsea are going to really struggle to adjust in the next few years, Abramovich was for all his faults someone who broadly understood football enough to make winning appointments and now Chelsea have someone who will just pick based on name value and then will fail to follow an overarching philosophy.

 

Todd you was lucky to get this club, either grow a pair or sell up 👍

He isn’t allowed to sell for 10yrs if I am not mistaken, so fans can stop with the “Boehly out” chants. 

 

10 hours ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

The honest truth is that that is how most clubs are run. We were spoiled under Roman since he didn't care about costs and wanted us to win no matter what. Most clubs take a business first approach.

Well said.. think he was writing off on average £1m per month ever since he bought the club. Find it ridiculous some fans & even the new owners claim we were poorly run. The reality is the club isn’t a profitable enterprise, & he had us punching above our weight for many years.

8 hours ago, Jezz said:

Tuchel was great in his early days of his Chelsea tenure, but I don't miss him. The problem we have now is we may have appointed the wrong replacement.

He was challenging for #1 in the league around this time last year IIRC, (also featuring in basically all but one cup finals) and then the squad was hit by injuries and of course the whole Russian thingy with a new ownership that had jacksh*t of experience of Football and at least a plan to integrate experienced replacements for Marina and Petr that failed spectacularly - safe to say that the summer transfer window was always going to be hugely improvised. Sacking then a high level manager who at least showed before he could get Chelsea rolling (and just had his squad replacements finalised the day  before he was sacked) looks bad. Really bad. Bringing in half of Brighton looking even worse afterwards looks like the next big question mark.

 

Edited January 13, 20233 yr by weetee

2 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

 I want to see some development, some inkling, of a style of football that we can all enjoy watching. My biggest concern in that regard is the fact that it has been a known fact tor a number of years Potter's teams don't score enough goals.

To be fair to the man, it's difficult to develop a style of football when injuries force you to change your preferred line-up every game.

One positive, by the time the war in Ukraine ends Roman can buy us back for a £1

46 minutes ago, ducavis said:

Well said.. think he was writing off on average £1m per month ever since he bought the club. Find it ridiculous some fans & even the new owners claim we were poorly run. The reality is the club isn’t a profitable enterprise, & he had us punching above our weight for many years.

It's not either/or.

He did fantastic in many areas including the one you mention which if anything makes it all the more frustrating we didn't make full use of such an advantage.

21 minutes ago, cfr95 said:

To be fair to the man, it's difficult to develop a style of football when injuries force you to change your preferred line-up every game.

If he was as good a manager as its claimed he is he could identify a system for what's available. That's not even happening right now.

Can't wait for the investment company to start taking money OUT of the club.

18 minutes ago, cups r dun said:

Can't wait for the investment company to start taking money OUT of the club.

Wouldn't be a very good investment company if they let us fail as a business. 

Even the glazers kept up a pretence of spending so that united didn't completely fall away.

I thought that that Roman insisted during the sale that anyone purchasing the Club would not be able to take money from the Club in a given period. What people called an anti-Glazers insurance written in the agreement.