Just now, ForeverCarefree said:

Won the title during his second spell.

Still a legend and would never sink to the low of calling our greatest ever manager a c**t.

He would call you a c**t.

46 minutes ago, cuppaT said:

In that time Pool have made 2 CL finals in a row and won one while we doss about in the European Paint Trophy. We’re a million miles from being a proper footballing force again. 

Yeah, that's really paltry, what with the FA cup last season and the league title the one before that. Dross.

2 hours ago, RickUK said:

It's Lampard coming in should Sarri go.  I am still utterly convinced.

 

I reckon we or Juventus will confirm Sarri's move by Friday

 

Lots of money on Wednesday – "decisive" announcement

16 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

He would call you a c**t.

And I’d welcome it, he’s earned the right to call me that if he wants. I still respect everything he achieved with Chelsea. 

Won us more than any other manager including three league titles. 

Edited June 3, 20197 yr by ForeverCarefree

4 minutes ago, fishCFC said:

 

Lots of money on Wednesday – "decisive" announcement

tbh i still sometimes think , are the media wrong re. Sarri but there is just too much noise for it to be nonsense.

 

I'd expect something soon, i think itll be sorted once we either get compo off Juve, or work some compromise out. 

17 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Why do you think we will continue to be successful in cups?

Because we’re Chelsea, it’s what we do. 

Even in turmoil or transitional spells we’re still more successful than 99% of other clubs. 

You belittling our achievements is frankly pathetic. 

14 minutes ago, ForeverCarefree said:

And I’d welcome it, he’s earned the right to call me that if he wants. I still respect everything he achieved with Chelsea. 

Won us more than any other manager including three league titles. 

He doesn't respect Chelsea, he behaved very sh*tty when he came back...IMO a legend needs to keep his status and Jose lost some of his due to his behaviour.

2 hours ago, dkw said:

Has he "openly asked" that? What evidence do you have? Because a report in the Times is as far from evidence as its possible to get. 

Didn’t you listen to his press conference? 

I still love Jose, he is still our most successful manager ever. If the club went that way he would have my full support. However i would be a little bit concerned because I just do not see him giving our young players the chances they deserve.

 

Blanc or Steve Holland for me.

4 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

he behaved very sh*tty when he came back...

I dunno, had its moments. 

1 minute ago, ForeverCarefree said:

I dunno, had its moments. 

I meant when he came back without being our manager, his life continued without Chelsea.

47 minutes ago, ForeverCarefree said:

All you doom merchants preaching a dystopian future

Future,? All season long all i have read from a small minority is how bad it was at present.

I hate how we are in this position again.. I totally understand why Sarri wants to leave though and I think he is completely right to move before his rep gets damaged by the board of our club. Sone fans have behaved like brats and I think we can blame them as well ‘cause Sarri was never going to feel loved as long as they would boo him and Jorginho whenever we were a goal down.. 

I really hope the board doesn’t appoint Lampard right now, he deserves to grow and develop himself as a manager so he can be ready when he comes home! The only option I am rooting for right now is Mourinho. He is the best manager in our history and I think he’ll come and help us if we are in need. For Mourinho this could be an opportunity to redeem himself in England and a chance to prove that he can still do it. It looks like we won’t be able to buy any players, and I think that’s the biggest potential reason for him to say no to Chelsea. 

According to several of his biographers and media reports he is still friends with Abramovich and he still loves the club. He said some things about Chelsea when he was at Manchester United but that’s not really an issue for me. He was the manager of the opponent, we know he does anything to give him and his team the edge so we know this was just a mind game. The whole “Judas” thing came to be thanks to some fans who shouted abuse, again I can’t fault him for reacting to that.. 

I hope we give Mourinho another chance to prove that he is not “one of the bottle”, but that he is a Special One!

1 hour ago, ForeverCarefree said:

Remind me, when we was the last time the bin dippers won a league title? 

All you doom merchants preaching a dystopian future for the very successful Chelsea football club cause some superstitious hobo with 100 a day habit wants to get back to his comfort zone.... pffft 

We’re bigger than Sarri will ever be. Good riddance to him if he wants out of the greatest football club in the world.

I just hope we’ve started on fumigating his office before the next lucky manager comes in.

What’s Sarri ever done to you? I don’t think the personal insults are fair. 

I do think there’s a percentage of the fan base that can’t warm to Sarri because of his appearance and smoking habit which is sad.

41 minutes ago, YoeriZ said:

I hate how we are in this position again.. I totally understand why Sarri wants to leave though and I think he is completely right to move before his rep gets damaged by the board of our club. Sone fans have behaved like brats and I think we can blame them as well ‘cause Sarri was never going to feel loved as long as they would boo him and Jorginho whenever we were a goal down.. 

I really hope the board doesn’t appoint Lampard right now, he deserves to grow and develop himself as a manager so he can be ready when he comes home! The only option I am rooting for right now is Mourinho. He is the best manager in our history and I think he’ll come and help us if we are in need. For Mourinho this could be an opportunity to redeem himself in England and a chance to prove that he can still do it. It looks like we won’t be able to buy any players, and I think that’s the biggest potential reason for him to say no to Chelsea. 

According to several of his biographers and media reports he is still friends with Abramovich and he still loves the club. He said some things about Chelsea when he was at Manchester United but that’s not really an issue for me. He was the manager of the opponent, we know he does anything to give him and his team the edge so we know this was just a mind game. The whole “Judas” thing came to be thanks to some fans who shouted abuse, again I can’t fault him for reacting to that.. 

I hope we give Mourinho another chance to prove that he is not “one of the bottle”, but that he is a Special One!

No, no, no.

And I say that having the utmost respect for what he did for us during his first spell, and the first year of his second spell.   

But since the first year of the second stint with us, he has proven to be a negative force at clubs.  He doesn't understand the modern player and can't relate to them.  He was more interested in trying to prove how good he was, then being good in the present.

And remember that the biggest criticism of Jose has always been his unwillingness and inability to develop young players.  That's simply the wrong mentality under a transfer ban where we may be forced to use younger players.

1 hour ago, terraloon said:

Didn’t you listen to his press conference? 

Which one, where he expressly stated that. 

7 minutes ago, DannyVblue said:

What’s Sarri ever done to you? I don’t think the personal insults are fair. 

I do think there’s a percentage of the fan base that can’t warm to Sarri because of his appearance and smoking habit which is sad.

Don’t take it personally mate.

47 minutes ago, YoeriZ said:

I hate how we are in this position again.. I totally understand why Sarri wants to leave though and I think he is completely right to move before his rep gets damaged by the board of our club. Sone fans have behaved like brats and I think we can blame them as well ‘cause Sarri was never going to feel loved as long as they would boo him and Jorginho whenever we were a goal down.. 

I really hope the board doesn’t appoint Lampard right now, he deserves to grow and develop himself as a manager so he can be ready when he comes home! The only option I am rooting for right now is Mourinho. He is the best manager in our history and I think he’ll come and help us if we are in need. For Mourinho this could be an opportunity to redeem himself in England and a chance to prove that he can still do it. It looks like we won’t be able to buy any players, and I think that’s the biggest potential reason for him to say no to Chelsea. 

According to several of his biographers and media reports he is still friends with Abramovich and he still loves the club. He said some things about Chelsea when he was at Manchester United but that’s not really an issue for me. He was the manager of the opponent, we know he does anything to give him and his team the edge so we know this was just a mind game. The whole “Judas” thing came to be thanks to some fans who shouted abuse, again I can’t fault him for reacting to that.. 

I hope we give Mourinho another chance to prove that he is not “one of the bottle”, but that he is a Special One!

We shouldn't of got burnt by going back a 2nd time, at that proved totally horrendous, going back a third time, we have very short memories, and just like an instant fix, it'll go tits up again, then what,......"Win, sack, employ, repeat"

2 hours ago, ForeverCarefree said:

And I’d welcome it, he’s earned the right to call me that if he wants. I still respect everything he achieved with Chelsea. 

Won us more than any other manager including three league titles. 

Respect is a two way street. With respect I don't really get the bolded part, he should be thanking us for what we did for him just as much as the other way round.

We gave him the perfect platform to show the world that his Porto success wasn't an AVB esque one off, if he was struggling with consistent results in his first job after Porto that miracle would have been quickly forgotten, look at how quickly Rafa became a figure for ridicule after his work at Valencia then his CL win at Liverpool for example.

Then we took him back at a time his stock went down a lot, sold top quality players that weren't suited to his play and brought in players of his liking which allowed him to win another league title, a title he used as bait in many of our clashes with United.

This notion that he was basically our oxygen circa 2004-2015 is ridiculous, like somehow everything we done good was thanks to him somehow. He done some incredible work in his first spell but we don't owe him anything.

Edited June 3, 20197 yr by Argo

2 hours ago, ForeverCarefree said:

DP

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Edited June 3, 20197 yr by Argo

One thing that I don’t like about Sarri is that he is not a “winner” and doesn’t really seem to have a “winners mentality”. Sounds daft after winning the Europa League but like Klopp and Poch, they all seem like unlucky losers. 

We’ve had a great culture of winning trophies and I fear employing second rate managers only increases our chances of eroding that winning mentality away. 

I love Mourinho, I always have even when he went to United, never held it against him even if he was a bit of a twat there which was expected. 

But absolutely not, why go back in transition again? We've taken a new direction of possession-based football, all that work will be for nought if we have Mourinho back. Plus we've sacked him twice now, that would just be silly and I doubt the club are really considering it so my post here is pointless but just want to express my view on the situation. 

If Sarri wants to go, which is pretty obvious he does, then let him. Can't fault him, at times I thought he was a bit weak mentally, such as having a strop in training the other day for all the cameras to see. But on the other hand, is it really any coincidence? How many times does this happen with managers here, Fabregas mentioned the negativity and bad things happening behind closed doors the other day, and I'm convinced there are some deep-rooted internal issues at the club. 

We are winning things, so that's good, but it's highly frustrating how we keep going through these transition cycles which is highly due to getting so many different managers. If we get a new manager, please don't let it be Lampard, and especially do not let it be Mourinho or Allegri. Let it be somebody of Sarri's style. 

6 hours ago, Stim said:

Mourinho got that dross united side into 2nd.

It's not really dross, just has so many ego's, he spent a lot of money on that side and they were miles behind City in the running. 

Even if Ole is doing worse, Mourinho massively failed at United given the money he spent and what was expected of him when he first came, he didn't take that team to another level, not really. Arguably he improved them in the 2nd season even though it was a very one-sided season, but he took them right back down the next. 

2 hours ago, YoeriZ said:

I hate how we are in this position again.. I totally understand why Sarri wants to leave though and I think he is completely right to move before his rep gets damaged by the board of our club. Sone fans have behaved like brats and I think we can blame them as well ‘cause Sarri was never going to feel loved as long as they would boo him and Jorginho whenever we were a goal down.. 

I really hope the board doesn’t appoint Lampard right now, he deserves to grow and develop himself as a manager so he can be ready when he comes home! The only option I am rooting for right now is Mourinho. He is the best manager in our history and I think he’ll come and help us if we are in need. For Mourinho this could be an opportunity to redeem himself in England and a chance to prove that he can still do it. It looks like we won’t be able to buy any players, and I think that’s the biggest potential reason for him to say no to Chelsea. 

According to several of his biographers and media reports he is still friends with Abramovich and he still loves the club. He said some things about Chelsea when he was at Manchester United but that’s not really an issue for me. He was the manager of the opponent, we know he does anything to give him and his team the edge so we know this was just a mind game. The whole “Judas” thing came to be thanks to some fans who shouted abuse, again I can’t fault him for reacting to that.. 

I hope we give Mourinho another chance to prove that he is not “one of the bottle”, but that he is a Special One!

Ok, clearly most successful manager in CFC history. No one else is in the conversation.

I mentioned him last week. I would put the chances at less than 10%, but this is Chelsea of course so who knows.

But I will say, if we were to fall on the sword, maybe try to negotiate on the transfer ban and accept it now, but get reduced to this summer only, why not give Jose a shot? It’s kind of a no win situation for anyone at that point. Even if the transfer ban gets pushed to January and next summer, still greatly diminishes the appeal of the job. 

If we sell Hazard this summer and can’t buy anyone, just hire Jose and defend like absolute crazy. Promise Jose we will spend big summer 2020 and see what happens.

 I just do not see who (of any name) would take this job right now, except for Jose.

Though not my top choice, he may be the top choice of realistic candidates. I would not hate the hire.

Come on you Chelsea!!

3 hours ago, YoeriZ said:

I hate how we are in this position again.. I totally understand why Sarri wants to leave though and I think he is completely right to move before his rep gets damaged by the board of our club. Sone fans have behaved like brats and I think we can blame them as well ‘cause Sarri was never going to feel loved as long as they would boo him and Jorginho whenever we were a goal down.. 

I really hope the board doesn’t appoint Lampard right now, he deserves to grow and develop himself as a manager so he can be ready when he comes home! The only option I am rooting for right now is Mourinho. He is the best manager in our history and I think he’ll come and help us if we are in need. For Mourinho this could be an opportunity to redeem himself in England and a chance to prove that he can still do it. It looks like we won’t be able to buy any players, and I think that’s the biggest potential reason for him to say no to Chelsea. 

According to several of his biographers and media reports he is still friends with Abramovich and he still loves the club. He said some things about Chelsea when he was at Manchester United but that’s not really an issue for me. He was the manager of the opponent, we know he does anything to give him and his team the edge so we know this was just a mind game. The whole “Judas” thing came to be thanks to some fans who shouted abuse, again I can’t fault him for reacting to that.. 

I hope we give Mourinho another chance to prove that he is not “one of the bottle”, but that he is a Special One!

Not Mourinho again. We can't afford to lose another bunch of talented players again. We had our good times but we ended it regardless of any reason.

We are stuck in transition limbo for years now.