7 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Poor in the first half but grew into it. His final ball lacking but his ability to turn and carry the ball is good. We could feel his absence when he was subbed off tbh. 

I thought he had a good game. I think you're right his final ball was perhaps lacking, but these players just need more games playing together to figure out that nuance.

 

32 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

If you're not doing anything, then you're playing rubbish. It was a rubbish performance from him, he spent most of the game hiding.

I didn't literally mean he did nothing. I meant he just did the basics, I would expect most of our youth players to be able to trap the ball, beat a press and pick a pass so he's not breaking new grounds there. 

50 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

I thought he was rubbish to be honest. I didn't expect him to look so out of place, I thought today would have been a fresh start for him.

I usually agree with your ratings Scott but was very surprised to see you gave hime a 3 today. For me I saw plenty to be encouraged about. After a poor start I though he showed well for the ball, linked the play well and was generally tidy. I'm looking forward to seeing if he can develop. 

1 minute ago, Liam said:

I usually agree with your ratings Scott but was very surprised to see you gave hime a 3 today. For me I saw plenty to be encouraged about. After a poor start I though he showed well for the ball, linked the play well and was generally tidy. I'm looking forward to seeing if he can develop. 

Agreed ( God that hurt). I've seen him get a bit of stick for his performance today from a few people. Didn't expect to see that at all. I thought he showed a lot of promise today after settling down. Tough crowd here!

1 minute ago, Liam said:

I usually agree with your ratings Scott but was very surprised to see you gave hime a 3 today. For me I saw plenty to be encouraged about. After a poor start I though he showed well for the ball, linked the play well and was generally tidy. I'm looking forward to seeing if he can develop. 

My worry is he strikes me a young RLC in the sense he has good/explosive isolated actions that makes it look like he's having a better overall game than he actually is.

I'd love to be wrong but i feel we are looking at super sub (at best) long term.

Just now, loz said:

Agreed ( God that hurt). 

I've just changed my mind. 

45 minutes ago, Liam said:

I've just changed my mind. 

Agreed. Looked half the player Hudson-Odoi did at the same age. Shame we can't put his head on Mudryk's body.

5 minutes ago, PloKoon13 said:

Shame we can't put his head on Mudryk's body.

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Felt he played in a nervous way in the first half. The entire team looked nervous and shaky in the first 20 minutes, particularly Colwill and Disasi. Understandable really given the circumstances.

Second half Carney was much, much better, as were Colwill and Disasi. Carney's touch and control is superb. In one example today, with players around him, he killed a dropping ball stone dead in the Liverpool penalty area, a beautiful touch of technical ability. He is gonna be a player for us. Believe.

33 minutes ago, PloKoon13 said:

Agreed. Looked half the player Hudson-Odoi did at the same age. Shame we can't put his head on Mudryk's body.

Mudryk looks coachable though unlike say, Werner. The ability is clearly there.

34 minutes ago, just said:

Felt he played in a nervous way in the first half. The entire team looked nervous and shaky in the first 20 minutes, particularly Colwill and Disasi. Understandable really given the circumstances.

Second half Carney was much, much better, as were Colwill and Disasi. Carney's touch and control is superb. In one example today, with players around him, he killed a dropping ball stone dead in the Liverpool penalty area, a beautiful touch of technical ability. He is gonna be a player for us. Believe.

Agree with this.

Definitely a player in there. Only 19 and I’m looking forward to seeing him develop under Poch. 

30 minutes ago, Liam said:

Mudryk looks coachable though unlike say, Werner. The ability is clearly there.

Yeah I imagine he’ll be fine (and I like Chukwuemeka), was just adding a predictable Hudson-Odoi twist to your Loz windup. 

Reportedly, could now be sent out on loan for this season.

Why Chelsea believe £222m duo Moises Caicedo and Enzo Fernandez can conquer all they see before them | Evening Standard

Personally, I'd wait 6 months to see how his situation develops before deciding whether to loan him out. He's surely best placed staying here to develop under Pochettino, provided he gets the bare minimum amount of gametime. Straight loan moves tend to be very hit & miss.

32 minutes ago, Fatty_Speeding said:

Reportedly, could now be sent out on loan for this season.

Why Chelsea believe £222m duo Moises Caicedo and Enzo Fernandez can conquer all they see before them | Evening Standard

Personally, I'd wait 6 months to see how his situation develops before deciding whether to loan him out. He's surely best placed staying here to develop under Pochettino, provided he gets the bare minimum amount of gametime. Straight loan moves tend to be very hit & miss.

This would be a shame, but with the amount of DM/CM players we are signing, it does tend to suggest a 4-3-3 rather than 4-2-3-1, and as the central attacking midfielder in the latter, then I guess Carney is somewhat surplus to requirements. Wouldn't be my choice though.

1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:

This would be a shame, but with the amount of DM/CM players we are signing, it does tend to suggest a 4-3-3 rather than 4-2-3-1, and as the central attacking midfielder in the latter, then I guess Carney is somewhat surplus to requirements. Wouldn't be my choice though.

I wouldnt worry too much about that piece, its just a throwaway line at the end of the article with no facts attached.

Felt he really shone during pre-season but didn't make much of a case for himself on Sunday. Would love to see him grow under Poch rather than being sent out on loan.

3 hours ago, dkw said:

I wouldnt worry too much about that piece, its just a throwaway line at the end of the article with no facts attached.

What "facts" usually get attached to newspaper articles?

The author (Nizaar Kinsella) is pretty reliable when it comes to Chelsea matters.

Chukwuemeka is very interesting player. He has a brilliant chance of showing what he can do now that Nkunku is out. I think he is still too raw for the massively important role but I am very interested to see how he does now that Caicedo is there to sure the ship and Enzo having the licence to bomb forward. I think he basically needs to be careful with the ball and have some end product; assists or goals. You basically need that to continue playing at number 10/advancing 8. 

If he was in a less pressure side I think he'd do very well. Hopefully he can handle the pressure.

18 hours ago, Fatty_Speeding said:

What "facts" usually get attached to newspaper articles?

The author (Nizaar Kinsella) is pretty reliable when it comes to Chelsea matters.

Well at the very least a "an insider said" or something, this didnt even have that, it was just an opinion written as a fact. There's zero evidence behind it.

Surely he'd be first choice backup after Enzo/Caicedo as an 8 (assuming Lavia playing the deep role)

1 minute ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Surely he'd be first choice backup after Enzo/Caicedo as an 8 (assuming Lavia playing the deep role)

We need to see what becomes of Gallagher. 

Great goal - feels like that could be the confidence boost he needs to really kick on and show exactly what he's got.

Touch wood the injury isn't too serious.

Really hope his injury isnt too serious, was one of our star performers today

Really nice goal - nothing but praise for his contributions today.  Also really hoping the injury is not as serious as it appeared

1 minute ago, PhilH930 said:

Really nice goal - nothing but praise for his contributions today.  Also really hoping the injury is not as serious as it appeared

The physios allowed him to hobble off the pitch without a stretcher, so it seems unlikely it's a cruciate ligament injury.

He also seemed to initially injure it whilst overstretching and picking up that yellow but carried on playing for a while after, which wouldn't be possible to do with a cruciate injury.