Yet another game where he doesn’t look anywhere near good enough. He shouldn’t be first choice.

Pathetic player - way out of his depth.

And to think we once went a season in the EPL with only 9 goals conceded.

It's just like I said the other day, he constantly looks like he is being pushed to his limit. He always looks on edge and at no point does he look comfortable. 

To be brutally honest, I'm nervous every time he touches the ball. It just doesn't look like he is in control of any situation.

46 minutes ago, Bloo said:

Pathetic player - way out of his depth.

And to think we once went a season in the EPL with only 9 goals conceded.

No we didn't - utter bullsh*t. It was 15 goals.

1. Rudiger

2. Christensen

3. Tomori

4. Zouma

5. Azpi

Our centre backs in order if it was up to me.

Zouma is looking really poor. He was never this 'panicky'. Every time someone comes at him with the ball he looks like he has no idea or confidence in doing the right thing, let alone his shakiness in possession and is positioning/marking. 

I don't know what's happened but he needs some serious one-to-one help at the moment. 

Looks a weak link in the team right now. 

Hopefully Rudiger is fit after the international break. 

Why on earth did he get picked over Christensen? 

1 hour ago, Remodez said:

Why on earth did he get picked over Christensen? 

I  have a hunch that Christeansen wasn't fully fit. In his last match i remember him talking to the medics about a discomfort, therefore probably Lampard decided not to risk him.

Zouma though looked uncomfortable from first half, i commented on match day thread that he was all over the place. I would have risked christinsen second half when we conceded immediately. 

4 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

1. Rudiger

2. Christensen

3. Tomori

4. Zouma

5. Azpi

Our centre backs in order if it was up to me.

Azpilicueta before Zouma any day. As some have argued before, bring on a Reece and put Azpilicueta as CRB. Otherwise, happy with your ranking, but Tomori will become better than Christensen (imo).

Edited September 1, 20196 yr by RMH

I had a bad feeling when the time sheet is out, last thing we need was a change in central defence.  I don't know what's the story with Christensen, if he's injured then we had no other choices. All the defenders were poor today, I don't think Zouma had much of a chance with the  goals, can't afford conceded by-line crosses like them,, But again, he deserved the blame because he was at the wrong place and the wrong time.

Not even against the physical blades could he look competent. 

13 hours ago, Gentian said:

I  have a hunch that Christeansen wasn't fully fit. In his last match i remember him talking to the medics about a discomfort, therefore probably Lampard decided not to risk him. 

 Lampard said in his presser after the game that he simply gave Tomori the nod because he'd impressed in training, nothing to do with an injury to Christensen. It was a bad call, not because Tomori played badly, but because Christensen has been far more impressive than Zouma. It was an alarmingly poor call by Lampard and calls into question his judgement.

18 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

No we didn't - utter bullsh*t. It was 15 goals.

Calm down for chrissakes!

My 63 year old memory is not as good as it was especially when remembering events from nigh on 15 years ago.

You are, of course, correct, my figure was the away goals conceded; but you already know that so a simple correction by you would've sufficed.

My apologies for raising your blood pressure and I can assure you I will say 3 Hail Marys tonight whilst wearing a horsehair shirt as punishment.

Why does Lampard not rate Christensen? What does he see in Zouma that we can't? 

I really rate Frank highly as a person and athlete and with a bit more time he can adjust things. Pls just don't be stubborn he sure knows better. 

Needs to drop down to 4th choice once Rudiger is back.

Rudiger, Christensen, Tomori, Zouma

13 minutes ago, Nevamind said:

Why does Lampard not rate Christensen? What does he see in Zouma that we can't? 

I really rate Frank highly as a person and athlete and with a bit more time he can adjust things. Pls just don't be stubborn he sure knows better. 

It's 1 game he hasn't played him, calm down. 

3 hours ago, dkw said:

It's 1 game he hasn't played him, calm down.

Yeah. But why then he choosed Christensen and not Zouma. 

Apperently Tomori impressd him in training and Christensen was the one to sit it out. Somehow he rates Zouma higher. 

 

 

18 hours ago, Nevamind said:

Yeah. But why then he choosed Christensen and not Zouma. 

Apperently Tomori impressd him in training and Christensen was the one to sit it out. Somehow he rates Zouma higher. 

Yeah, maybe he does. He sees Zouma every day in training and he also played better than Christensen in the last 2 games. He hits a long pass better than AC and he is a bigger threat at set pieces. 

Not really sure what other people are seeing where Zouma is 100% an awful player and AC has been incredible. Is it just based on that 30 minutes against united?

Edited September 2, 20196 yr by bisright1

10 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Yeah, maybe he does. He sees Zouma every day in training and he also played better than Christensen in the last 2 games. He hits a long pass better than AC and he is a bigger threat at set pieces. 

Not really sure what other people are seeing where Zouma is 100% an awful player and AC has been incredible. Is it just based on that 30 minutes against united?

How is Zouma more a threat on set pieces? AC and Zouma have Zero goals between them. 

Yes it is based on the United match and also how he looks always on the edge on everything. AC is for me more calm and he can also pass it long too, i see nothing between them in terms of passing.

Well i rate AC higher but i am also not the coach. 

Zouma needs to wise up and learn how to read the game. Someone in the coaching staff better grind him hard on tactics and movement because he is tactically naive for a top team's CB

53 minutes ago, Deino said:

learn how to read the game

You can't learn that. You either have it or not + he needs to work on far more significant things for a defender before reading a game. Playing with his feet pops out at first. 

1 hour ago, Nevamind said:

How is Zouma more a threat on set pieces? AC and Zouma have Zero goals between them.

Not quite correct ... Kurt has one goal now this season LOL

45 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Not quite correct ... Kurt has one goal now this season LOL

Ouch 

On 01/09/2019 at 13:05, Bloo said:

Calm down for chrissakes!

My 63 year old memory is not as good as it was especially when remembering events from nigh on 15 years ago.

You are, of course, correct, my figure was the away goals conceded; but you already know that so a simple correction by you would've sufficed.

My apologies for raising your blood pressure and I can assure you I will say 3 Hail Marys tonight whilst wearing a horsehair shirt as punishment.

Oh ! Sorry !  I thought I'd put a smiley face after my original comment, which was meant "tongue-in-cheek", although you can't tell that with the emoticon omitted 🙂