1 minute ago, magichat said:

have to disagree here, he was largely ineffective in this match, slowed a lot of our advances and hesitated to shoot.

Would you take of Messi or Ronaldo if they was ineffective? The game is 1-1 and one moment from Hazard can turn the game. Taking off Hazard confirmed which we all knew already since the 2nd half started we was playing for the draw, came back to f**k Conte when they scored.

1 minute ago, JMaher94 said:

I actually can't stand Mourinho anymore either.

Amusing that JM did exactly what Pogba and his agent told him to do .. play 4-3-3 with Pogba atacking up the left of midfield ... must say Pogba on his office door LOL

7 minutes ago, robdog said:

so is everyone ok with this call?

 

I don't know why bs like this happens to CFC

The goal should have stood but it's not a glaring, obvious mistake. Linesman gets a split second to see that and make the call.

That decision isn't why we lost, it's the terrible second half performance that did.

16 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

I'm losing the will to get excited for any football match these days. It's happening in almost every game. I don't give a sh*t what anybody says, we don't get the decision's that any of the other 5 teams around us get, and that is a fact. If anybody is denying that then they clearly aren't paying attention to our matches and our rivals. Even the minor decision's like going in strong and winning the ball fairly, it's always a foul when we do it, it's always a good tackle when it's against us though. I seen Watford putting in tackles like Morata's against us a few weeks back and it was a fair tackle apparently.

 

I need a break from football, the end of the season can't come soon enough. It's just draining and i haven't enjoyed it all season.

You're absolutely spot on.

Referees are f**king pathetic and easily influenced by the crowd and the quicker technology is brought in, the better. 

Morata's goal should have stood. 

f**k the Premier League & the FA.

1 minute ago, TJB said:

The goal should have stood but it's not a glaring, obvious mistake. Linesman gets a split second to see that and make the call.

That decision isn't why we lost, it's the terrible second half performance that did.

Even so if it were on the other foot United wouldn’t shut up about it. Especially Mourinho, and we wonder why referees don’t feel pressured to make silly calls against us like they do everyone else. 

9 minutes ago, Ernie_blue said:

Hazard isn't other players though.

 

6 minutes ago, Slojo said:

Exactly! Taking your best player off who can influence the game at any moment will not help anything when you’re replacing that player with Pedro. 

Hazard gets subbed off far too much for my liking. 

If he’s not performing he deserves to be hooked. Just playing players on reputation is what people slated Mourinho, Hazard was poor and deserved to be subbed. We’ll have to agree to disagree that he should play every second of every game when he’s fit just because he’s Hazard.

Just now, EdinburghBlue said:

 

If he’s not performing he deserves to be hooked. Just playing players on reputation is what people slated Mourinho, Hazard was poor and deserved to be subbed. We’ll have to agree to disagree that he should play every second of every game when he’s fit just because he’s Hazard.

Hazard isn’t Ivanovic, he can influence the game at any moment it’s a fact. Taking him off all the time is not benefiting us in the slightest, are his performances improving because of it? No. He was much better 2 years ago and he had defensive responsibilities. 

We have to lower our expectations, we are about the same level we were at in the late 90's. Good but not quite good enough. 

I'm not even angry anymore at defeats, just wish we showed some more balls. 

We were never going to get that morata decision old Trafford, can't blame the referee for that 2nd half perfomance. 

Unless the club is willing to invest heavily like the 2 Manchester clubs, this is where we are going to be. We are in the same boat as spurs and Liverpool, I just think we need accept it, and start building slowly. 

We can't be sacking world class managers for finishing 5th.

Another big game next weekend, and it will fingers crossed again. Top 4 is still attainable. 

If the plan was to play fast paced game, then maybe sub Morata for Pedro and make Hazard the false nine again. Between Moratta and Giroud we have 2 sh*t strikers ... lol. I would not have subbed Hazard today - unless the plan was to protect him. 

I don't know about anybody else, but i'm finding this season to be worse than the season we had 2 years ago. We aren't playing as bad obviously, but the events of this season has felt inevitable, right from the start. Bad transfer window, miserable manager, players not performing well, poor results, constant terrible decision's given against us from the ref. I just feel like i'm waiting to see us get knocked out of the Champions League, miss out on top 4 and for Conte to leave now........like i said, it just feels inevitable.

I am desperate for a twist to go in our favour, this season has been horribly predictable and terrible to watch too. There has been about 2 or 3 really enjoyable moments all season, the rest has been a mix of ok, bad and terrible. With the way things are playing out, i'm wouldn't be surprised to see Hazard leave too.

5 minutes ago, big blue said:

We have to lower our expectations, we are about the same level we were at in the late 90's. Good but not quite good enough. 

I'm not even angry anymore at defeats, just wish we showed some more balls. 

We were never going to get that morata decision old Trafford, can't blame the referee for that 2nd half perfomance. 

Unless the club is willing to invest heavily like the 2 Manchester clubs, this is where we are going to be. We are in the same boat as spurs and Liverpool, I just think we need accept it, and start building slowly. 

We can't be sacking world class managers for finishing 5th.

Another big game next weekend, and it will fingers crossed again. Top 4 is still attainable. 

Conte is NOT a world class coach!

9 minutes ago, JMaher94 said:

You're absolutely spot on.

Referees are f**king pathetic and easily influenced by the crowd and the quicker technology is brought in, the better. 

Morata's goal should have stood. 

f**k the Premier League & the FA.

I agree, but if the Norwich game was anything to go by, we are still going to get shafted by the refs even with technology in place. The video assistant ref has to say the ref has made a clear error for a decision to be overturned, so i see nothing changing. Just like the game against Norwich, the video ref will side with the ref on the field.

5 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

I don't know about anybody else, but i'm finding this season to be worse than the season we had 2 years ago. We aren't playing as bad obviously, but the events of this season has felt inevitable, right from the start. Bad transfer window, miserable manager, players not performing well, poor results, constant terrible decision's given against us from the ref. I just feel like i'm waiting to see us get knocked out of the Champions League, miss out on top 4 and for Conte to leave now........like i said, it just feels inevitable.

I am desperate for a twist to go in our favour, this season has been horribly predictable and terrible to watch too. There has been about 2 or 3 really enjoyable moments all season, the rest has been a mix of ok, bad and terrible. With the way things are playing out, i'm wouldn't be surprised to see Hazard leave too.

Don't worry we'll win the Champions League miraculously

Hopefully.

Unlikely though. 

1 minute ago, big blue said:

We have to lower our expectations, we are about the same level we were at in the late 90's. Good but not quite good enough. 

I'm not even angry anymore at defeats, just wish we showed some more balls. 

We were never going to get that morata decision old Trafford, can't blame the referee for that 2nd half perfomance. 

Unless the club is willing to invest heavily like the 2 Manchester clubs, this is where we are going to be. We are in the same boat as spurs and Liverpool, I just think we need accept it, and start building slowly. 

We can't be sacking world class managers for finishing 5th.

Another big game next weekend, and it will fingers crossed again. Top 4 is still attainable. 

Agree with you on the referees but not on everything else. Spurs have a very balanced first 11. If they just make the Premier League their priority then they have a good chance of challenging City. I dont think our clubs needs to invest heavily as much as it needs to invest intelligently. The last player who Chelsea bought that was a huge positive for us was actually Kante. After that none of our buys have improved the first team. Everyone is a squad player. We are spending a lot of money on average players - we just need to be smarter with our player purchases. It also does not help that Conte seems a bit overmatched with the workload. Also, while the top 4 is mathematically obtainable, the fact that there are 4 really good teams vying for the remaining 3 spots is concerning and our own form does not instill me with a relaxed confidence. 

We had in this game a major problem: From the beginning, it looked like we had no will and desire,  we did not seem to want to win this game. Against Barca the lads gave it all, but not now. We had an extra day of rest, so no excuses should be heard. I think that we also saw some of Kante's (who was mediocre at best) weaknesses - namely height and passes; he is a very smart footballer, however, lacks the technique of an elite midfielder - though his pros wayy outweigh his cons.

A second point is Christensen - he is talented, for sure, but not yet at a level a Chelsea defender should be at - all of United's goals were his fault. But because he is so talented, we need to endure these mistakes and continue developing him. He was good this season.
Also, Morata is absolutely useless. He simply can't exploit his height and guard the fuc**** ball. He also lack confidence, technique and awareness.  Conte is to blame for the team spirit and choosing Moratra and not Cesc. When we changed to a back 4, we looked decent.

If we reflect, I think it is clear why we are struggling. Instead of reinforcing the squad, we weakened it - Matic' is better then any midfielder we have, Costa is 10 times Morata, and Luiz was sublime last season.

We might just blew it (a top 4 slot), but we have three games against Spurs, City and Liverpool (which I believe is our 37th in the league). We really should aim to claim 2 wins and a draw. What a depressing performance...

44 minutes ago, Tibbers said:

Could be but we also have our shortcomings. Especially on that Lukaku goal.

Of course although that probably should have been stopped when Christensen went down holding his head.

We don't do ourselves any favours though we should have finished the game off having dominated most of it.

1 hour ago, EdinburghBlue said:

Hazard was very poor, if that was any other player people would be screaming for him to be hooked.

WTF ? He was not poor. He gave an assist, was winning 50/50 battles against matic and barry(mctominay)

I don't understand how we brought Giroud on to play alongside Morata and didn't put a single cross in to the box. 

Sorry its time to fire the bullet on Conte...ok some decisions went against us today but some of his team selections contributed to the defeat...we've got only 10 games to go and we're in 5th and in danger of not making next year's CL...time for a new manager to step and drive drive the team home...

2 minutes ago, haidertalal said:

WTF ? He was not poor. He gave an assist, was winning 50/50 battles against matic and barry(mctominay)

He was a disgrace in the second half. Barely got into positions to receive the ball and when he did he lazily gave it away with those stupid flicks they like to do in the second half when they get tired and can't be bothered

21 minutes ago, Ernie_blue said:

Would you take of Messi or Ronaldo if they was ineffective? The game is 1-1 and one moment from Hazard can turn the game. Taking off Hazard confirmed which we all knew already since the 2nd half started we was playing for the draw, came back to f**k Conte when they scored.

21 minutes ago, Slojo said:

And I’ve seen plenty of times where Hazard is quiet but still creates something out of nothing. 

He makes things happen. Subbing him off for Pedro is not a keen gamble, who here thought that was a good idea when it happened? I bet it’s not a 50/50

 

could've changed the game, should've changed the game, didn't.

Conte had to change something, for half an hour all of our attacking player (Hazard included) was sitting on their arse. he's no oracle, he couldn't have predicted whether Hazard will or will not change the game had he stayed, but what he could do was judging him by his actual performance. he had every right to change him based on that.

36 minutes ago, Jamjar1986 said:

Missing out on top 4 is gonna be catastrophic, no world class signing,and probably hazard and courtouis gone, thanks conte

More like thanks chelsea board. They should both have been tied down last summer, and our transfers have been a f**king disgrace

BArkley

Bakayoko

Drinkwater

Zappacosta

Give me a f**king break

The problem I have with Conte is you can see the game was getting away from Chelsea in the second half, the crowd was getting louder, Utd was seeing more of the ball, Chelsea was losing it a lot. Lots of fans on this forum alone could see a change was needed, Mourinho knew how a sub would impact his team so made one. Morata was playing awful, Moses wasn't great, obvious changeds for me specially after Barca.

A Chelsea sub will never come till too late, we know that. I would also like to know what was said at half time in both the Arsenal and Utd games, looked completely different teams, Conte did make the sub of bringing on an unfit Barkley instead of Batman at Arsenal.

 

4 minutes ago, magichat said:

could've changed the game, should've changed the game, didn't.

Conte had to change something, for half an hour all of our attacking player (Hazard included) was sitting on their arse. he's no oracle, he couldn't have predicted whether Hazard will or will not change the game had he stayed, but what he could do was judging him by his actual performance. he had every right to change him based on that.

Conte did well to change the game, playing for the draw. I wonder how be judged Moses performance, that was a reactive sub.

Edited February 25, 20188 yr by Ernie_blue

More like thanks chelsea board. They should both have been tied down last summer, and our transfers have been a f**king disgrace
BArkley
Bakayoko
Drinkwater
Zappacosta
Give me a f**king break

I also agree, but conte has got to do better, has been playing the victim for months and its turned our season into a complete shambles, liverpool strengthening, spurs new stadium to come, we are gona end up miles away with a board not wanting to invest