1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

Well first of a big thank you to lady luck and Mendy, superb performance from the big man again.

Sometimes you get away with wasting the times when you are on top in a game, and sometimes you don't. Thankfully for us today was the former.

Lukaku has to stay onside for that backheel goal, poor play not watching the line well. Werner has to hit the target with his.

Kovacic's final pass is worse than Werners finishing or Lukakus first touch.

Lukaku was helpful in our own box at least though, unlike Kai who twice flicked on their balls in rather than clear them.

RLC was really good most of the game, Kante was not kante, Kova was poor and Dave looked tired.

Impressed with our back 3. Sarr played really well, Trev did not let Toney bully him, so much so he was diving for pens. Christensen led well, Chilwell was really good.

Lesson here is we won't always be so lucky. We have to do better when we are on top in games. We cannot afford for our forwards to keep wasting the crumbs they get and our midfield to be so hopeless at finding them.

Final positive thoughts though, well done Sarr for producing a really good display when all on here doubted you, Trev for maning up and clearing the one time they beat Mendy, and how great it is to have a top keeper again.

I actually thought Sarr had a poor game in the last 20 where his lack of aerial ability showed.. for me it’s no surprise that their big chances came from his side .. I can remember at least three

1. the ball that hit the post 

2. the one TC cleared off the line 

3. the one that Mendy saved with his face.

Well done Mendy.

Our attackers can't score

Our defenders score 

But....

What concerns me mostly.....Our level of good quality effective football. We had a second string team out there last night. That proves our squad depth is just ridiculous. The bad thing though is that had we played our first 11, the performance would've been exactly the same. Certain key players really need to step their attacking game up.

 

There are no easy games in the premier league. Brentford have been flying high and Liverpool conceded three goals there remember.

Given the youth at the back I’d say this was the most impressive win of the season so far.

I hear the concerns about the forwards. Crazy how many of the attacking players in our squad appear out of form.

Norwich at home next weekend. If we can’t score a couple there then I’ll start to worry. Need to get Mount back in and playing well. He dictates our press and passion - we look a better side when he is playing well.

Should be Rom, Mount and Werner for me.

5 hours ago, jt61 said:

We got lucky today pure and simple.Forget about players that were missing,we are a team that lacks  quality in depth.

The fact that we are top of the league is incredible.The writing has been on the wall for quite a few games now,we are struggling but still getting results.We have players that should never have been bought(havertz, zeyech and possibly  lulu)and I ask the question who is responsible  for buying this dross?.

This is not a blip it is team that is struggling I'm afraid and will get battered more in the future.

Our best eleven players are a match for any team in the world but our back up players are just not good enough.

 

@coco Ban this clown please he's a Spurs fan who tries to make out he's Chelsea look at his profile nearly all his posts are not very subtle digs at us. He's been banned at least twice before when he was @cfcwomble and then @Dointhejtdouble. He's not used much imagination for his latest user name using JT again and obviously the team he supports winning the double in 61.

Whilst I thought that Sarr struggled with the aerial aspects I liked his strength and willingness to be first in the tackle. I wonder if, under Tuchel's tutelage he couldn't be groomed as Kante's understudy.

I have been impressed with RLC under Tuchel as well and think he likewise can develop in the Jorginho role

10 hours ago, icecoolguy22 said:

Referee was largely unnoticed in the game, Tuchel did the right thing backing him pre-game.

Agree, publicly backing him was a master stroke. 

Chelsea match was on just as I arrived to one of my friends' birthday party, so after we won I had one extra reason to celebrate, my night was already a good one, turned into a great one.

Massive 3 points after the intl break in a potential banana skin type of match against a very good club. Beat Arsenal, Wolves, West Ham, drew Liverpool and their only loss this season was a last minute goal by Brighton at their only decent attempt on goal in that match.

We had to win this, we did it, kept a clean sheet and we move on to the next one, there is Norwich, Newcaste and Burnley coming up, we need to make those 9/9 before the Leicester & United matches.

Respect for Brentford has gone out the window after the managers post match rant, Brentford were not even in the game for 70 minutes, and yet he calls us lucky. They'll be in Leeds position next season, and Stokes position the season after that.

19 minutes ago, coco said:

Respect for Brentford has gone out the window after the managers post match rant, Brentford were not even in the game for 70 minutes, and yet he calls us lucky. They'll be in Leeds position next season, and Stokes position the season after that.

Agree, not offended by the comment ( heat of the moment and all that), but it's a bit rich saying what he said. They happened to catch us at a good time right after the International break, and until we ran out of gas after about 70 minutes , we were the better team. Should have just taken the positives and stay humble. Shifield United's first season 2 years ago was a breath of fresh air too, beating big teams and playing out of their leagues. As soon as the rest of the league figured them out and a lackluster transfer window, it all fallen apart. Not saying Brentford will definitely be like that, but one season wonder happened plenty of time before.

54 minutes ago, coco said:

Respect for Brentford has gone out the window after the managers post match rant, Brentford were not even in the game for 70 minutes, and yet he calls us lucky. They'll be in Leeds position next season, and Stokes position the season after that.

He's done worse since taking over Cooper to be fair

The most surprising fact of the game was that Anthony Taylor had a good game.

1 hour ago, coco said:

Respect for Brentford has gone out the window after the managers post match rant, Brentford were not even in the game for 70 minutes, and yet he calls us lucky. They'll be in Leeds position next season, and Stokes position the season after that.

I actually agree with his comments . They hit the post twice, had a shot cleared off the line and Mendy made 3 World class saves while we scored with our only shot on target. If the roles were reversed we would be screaming robbery and how lucky Brentford were. 

Their coach definitely robs me the wrong way though. I dont know what i have against him. May be its his hair....  lol

13 hours ago, Backbiter said:

I agree with your last point. Kova is a hugely talented player, but his passing in final third and his shooting are big weaknesses. As you say, Kanté has similar weaknesses. It's very frustrating that, for all their qualities,  our midfielders all have pretty glaring flaws.

Yes he overhit some passes in the final third. But don't forget he created a fantastic chance for Werner with a through ball, when he released him right in front of the keeper, but Werner was hesitant to shoot.

17 minutes ago, The Don Antonio said:

I actually agree with his comments . They hit the post twice, had a shot cleared off the line and Mendy made 3 World class saves while we scored with our only shot on target. If the roles were reversed we would be screaming robbery and how lucky Brentford were. 

Their coach definitely robs me the wrong way though. I dont know what i have against him. May be its his hair....  lol

I dont have a problem with a manager saying his team was unlucky, but i hate it when they say the other team was lucky, you make your own luck, they fluffed their chances, that's a failure, not unlucky. 

I actually watched the first 70 minutes of the match and i had to leave to do something. So if you watch that first seventy minutes, you will know that Mendy didn't really do anything in the match apart from a mistake he almost made when his boot removed and I think Aspi was helping him tie it. 

So after the match and I was hearing everybody talking about the match, they were saying it was Mendy that saved Chelsea. Well, I think I've seen the highlights of the game, and I think I saw that overhead kick by that Brentford player, the ball was coming in the direction of Mendy, I think he just jumped and tipped the ball over the bar. 

I think we should be careful not to over-respect opponents. We have not even played against this Brentford and some people were already afraid of them. They don't know whether Brentford have players that are very dangerous. Because if a team does not have very good players, then definitely it will be easy for us to win them. 

I don't think Brentford have extremely good players like that, so this unnecessary noise about them, I don't understand. Yes the opponents will make some efforts too, but it is our job to make sure they don't score, if we do that, there's nothing special about the opponent. What is most important is for us to talk about the good performance that our players put forward.  

I kind of have a feeling that the coach really did a great job to come up with that 352 formation, I think it really worked against Brentford. And when we are playing against a difficult opposition, it is very good to have a coach who can use a system that can overcome the opposition. Because I think since Brentford has been able to draw Liverpool and I think win Arsenal this season, it's good to win them.

Then its good to say that Chillwell's goal was nice. And I think Loftus-Cheek had a great game and I think Loftus Cheek should be first choice in midfield right now, others like Jorginho, Kovacic, or Mount, are behind him at the moment.

Then up front, I feel Werner needs to improve, if not, Mount can pair with Lukaku up front, or Havertz or Ziyech can pair with Lukaku upfront.

8 hours ago, Jangz said:

I actually thought Sarr had a poor game in the last 20 where his lack of aerial ability showed.. for me it’s no surprise that their big chances came from his side .. I can remember at least three

1. the ball that hit the post 

2. the one TC cleared off the line 

3. the one that Mendy saved with his face.

He suffered in the air against a side who struggled to get past him on the deck. Not saying he was Maldini or anything but he put in a good shift for someone who has played one game all season.

2 hours ago, coco said:

I dont have a problem with a manager saying his team was unlucky, but i hate it when they say the other team was lucky, you make your own luck, they fluffed their chances, that's a failure, not unlucky. 

Agree on that point, you don't need to belittle a side the way he did. Sure make your point that you were very unlucky and the opposition keeper had a great game and that you felt you deserved at least a draw, cause it is all true but show a little respect on what you are doing.

We did not cheat, we did not get away with a Hawkeye failure like Villa against Sheff u, we did not give away fouls that were not given and should be pens. We fought for our lives to hold on to the 3 points.

Oh and no mention of their main man falling like a fairy trying to get free kicks and that none pen from Trev eh? Lol

 

The weekend is a success after Chelsea winning. This was the classic trap game right after the intl break, an away fixture against a hungry side that already showed it can get results. Well done to Chelsea (especially Mendy) for getting the win.

On a somewhat related note, ManUtd are 6th if results hold in the Tottenham match. What happened, did MU miss a monthly payment to the refs?

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15 hours ago, bluehaze said:

@coco Ban this clown please he's a Spurs fan who tries to make out he's Chelsea look at his profile nearly all his posts are not very subtle digs at us. He's been banned at least twice before when he was @cfcwomble and then @Dointhejtdouble. He's not used much imagination for his latest user name using JT again and obviously the team he supports winning the double in 61.

"Clown"? ha ha you're a funny person.You seem to know more about spurs than I do - I had no idea they won the double in '61 and yes I have been a tad critical of the team recently,but i see a decline in the way we play and yes we have been lucky.Play like we did at Brentford against a top team and we will get battered.

Now stop this obsession with me,I don't you know you from Adam - you could be the count of monte Cristo for all I know or care,I'm just confused as to why we are so far from the team that beat City twice and outclassed both Madrid teams in the champion's league.

I my opinion it is because we lack quality in reserve - we  have players that are just not good enough and players that are just not suited to the EPL,either way we need to get rid.I hear Kante and Kova coming in for some stick..stalwarts imo just having bad players around them.I would be looking to offload (or replace as first team players).... Ziyech,Havertz,Barkley,Alonso(squad player)Azpi(squad player)Jorginho(squad player).I have never got personal with anyone on here but you called me a "clown" and I realise you are probably a stalwart on here.Now give us your hypothesis on why watching us lately has been so grim  - I've given my opinion...

 

 

21 hours ago, Jangz said:

Havertz was tearing up defensives .. Ziyech dominating in UCL - lukaku scored 30+ goals how can you cal then dross? 
 

They are just not suited to the premier league.It is the best league in the world.Teams in the epl need to have  high intensity...speed and ball control are essential,Havertz and Ziyech lack speed of thought and physicality.With Lulu the jury is still out - I really didn't want him here but it is early days so I will give him the benefit of the doubt.In fairness to Lulu he is not getting the service either from wingers or from accurate through balls - he is at best a finisher when he gets chances - at worst he is just a big awkward lump - 97mil?.. not for me.

We have players on our books that should be cleared out - Ziyech and Havertz we should just cut our losses- RLC has shown glimpses  but fades like a winter sun.Jorginho is a very poor mans Fabregas and should be a squad player just like Alonso and unfortunately Azpi.

We need the likes of pulisic back and on form and CHO also.We have been very unlucky with injuries of late so maybe I am over reacting but it's only because I care.

I like this one. Beeskeeper 😄

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4 hours ago, jt61 said:

They are just not suited to the premier league.It is the best league in the world.Teams in the epl need to have  high intensity...speed and ball control are essential,Havertz and Ziyech lack speed of thought and physicality.With Lulu the jury is still out - I really didn't want him here but it is early days so I will give him the benefit of the doubt.In fairness to Lulu he is not getting the service either from wingers or from accurate through balls - he is at best a finisher when he gets chances - at worst he is just a big awkward lump - 97mil?.. not for me.

We have players on our books that should be cleared out - Ziyech and Havertz we should just cut our losses- RLC has shown glimpses  but fades like a winter sun.Jorginho is a very poor mans Fabregas and should be a squad player just like Alonso and unfortunately Azpi.

We need the likes of pulisic back and on form and CHO also.We have been very unlucky with injuries of late so maybe I am over reacting but it's only because I care.

This makes me smile on a Monday. A few trolling village idiots always make me feel better about myself. Keep it up son.

7 hours ago, jt61 said:

They are just not suited to the premier league.It is the best league in the world.Teams in the epl need to have  high intensity...speed and ball control are essential,Havertz and Ziyech lack speed of thought and physicality.With Lulu the jury is still out - I really didn't want him here but it is early days so I will give him the benefit of the doubt.In fairness to Lulu he is not getting the service either from wingers or from accurate through balls - he is at best a finisher when he gets chances - at worst he is just a big awkward lump - 97mil?.. not for me.

We have players on our books that should be cleared out - Ziyech and Havertz we should just cut our losses- RLC has shown glimpses  but fades like a winter sun.Jorginho is a very poor mans Fabregas and should be a squad player just like Alonso and unfortunately Azpi.

We need the likes of pulisic back and on form and CHO also.We have been very unlucky with injuries of late so maybe I am over reacting but it's only because I care.

I know it's a disaster, we are being drawn into that relegation battle  

7 hours ago, jt61 said:

They are just not suited to the premier league.It is the best league in the world.Teams in the epl need to have  high intensity...speed and ball control are essential,Havertz and Ziyech lack speed of thought and physicality.With Lulu the jury is still out - I really didn't want him here but it is early days so I will give him the benefit of the doubt.In fairness to Lulu he is not getting the service either from wingers or from accurate through balls - he is at best a finisher when he gets chances - at worst he is just a big awkward lump - 97mil?.. not for me.

We have players on our books that should be cleared out - Ziyech and Havertz we should just cut our losses- RLC has shown glimpses  but fades like a winter sun.Jorginho is a very poor mans Fabregas and should be a squad player just like Alonso and unfortunately Azpi.

We need the likes of pulisic back and on form and CHO also.We have been very unlucky with injuries of late so maybe I am over reacting but it's only because I care.

Agree with @ozboy, this is hilarious. Thanks! 

10 hours ago, jt61 said:

"Clown"? ha ha you're a funny person.You seem to know more about spurs than I do - I had no idea they won the double in '61 and yes I have been a tad critical of the team recently,but i see a decline in the way we play and yes we have been lucky.Play like we did at Brentford against a top team and we will get battered.

Now stop this obsession with me,I don't you know you from Adam - you could be the count of monte Cristo for all I know or care,I'm just confused as to why we are so far from the team that beat City twice and outclassed both Madrid teams in the champion's league.

I my opinion it is because we lack quality in reserve - we  have players that are just not good enough and players that are just not suited to the EPL,either way we need to get rid.I hear Kante and Kova coming in for some stick..stalwarts imo just having bad players around them.I would be looking to offload (or replace as first team players).... Ziyech,Havertz,Barkley,Alonso(squad player)Azpi(squad player)Jorginho(squad player).I have never got personal with anyone on here but you called me a "clown" and I realise you are probably a stalwart on here.Now give us your hypothesis on why watching us lately has been so grim  - I've given my opinion...

 

 

Here's my hypothesis.