Think we should call Havertz "The Magician".

 

In that he seems to disappear every game.

If Broja is fit next game he has to start. If you're constantly putting performances like this in you have to be dropped

3 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

If Broja is fit next game he has to start. If you're constantly putting performances like this in you have to be dropped

Twisted his knee so he is out for quite a while. 

Time to go back to Germany.

3 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Twisted his knee so he is out for quite a while. 

Oh really? I thought Tuchel said he was only out for a few days.

Absolute flop of a signing. I wish the transfer  ban was 2 seasons. What a waste of 200m.

13 minutes ago, Nibs said:

Think we should call Havertz "The Magician".

 

In that he seems to disappear every game.

It has become the reality. Nobody even knows what position he plays anymore.

Time to stop flogging the dead horse, and sell him for whatever we can get.

I just don't see enough there worth persisting with ... 

1 hour ago, PloKoon13 said:

I've figured it out... he's the tall Oscar

Oscar was much better than Havertz and i didnt even rate Oscar that highly.

4 minutes ago, jack_super_class said:

Oscar was much better than Havertz and i didnt even rate Oscar that highly.

I did rate Oscar, but I don't think he would do particularly well in Havertz's role at the moment. Might have to rethink my Aubameyang policy...

You've reminded me of a game Oscar played up front under José against Arsenal (presumably when Costa was injured). I remember him generally playing quite well and almost winning a penalty. I don't remember the specific incident, but I have some recollection of arguing that it shouldn't have been a penalty, but @Davey Baby disagreed. Maybe he can weigh in?

Edited August 21, 20223 yr by PloKoon13

I legitimately did't realise he was playing until somthing like 13 minutes in when he ran offside

1 hour ago, Zeta said:

Time to go back to Germany.

 

I think he will, eventually.

Every attackers under TT are leaving. Tammy, Lukaku, Werner. Pulisic and Ziyech seems to be on the way out as well. 

Where is this guy? Dont recall seeing him play for a while. Where has he been?

Needs to be dropped, no excuse. I don't even care who's in for him, Borjas or Pullisic, surely they will put in a shift. You have Havertz who don't show up for games, then have guys like Pullisic\Ziyech\CHO permanently benched, no wonder they all want to go 🤔

OK, not playing well and like some others could not complain if he was benched. BUT I still would not sell him! He is not a centre-forward period, and unfortunately, for him and us, that is what he is being asked to do. But if we could only find someone, anyone, who is and can play the CF role with any level of competence and consistency I feel certain we would start to see a marked improvement in Havertz, Mount and also get more bang from Sterling.

Kai is like the cherry on top of the icing on top of the cake. Unfortunately our cake is underdone the moment and the icing is still in the bowl. If we get that sorted then there is every possibility he could adorn the team. Until then I'd give him a rest.

Trying to emulate lukaku? The following taken from Sky sports.

 

"The German played the entire 90 minutes but had just 38 touches of the ball and made just six completed passes in the final third - only centre-back Thiago Silva made fewer. For context, Mount and Sterling had 27 between them. Havertz also failed to have a single shot in the game as the 90 minutes just seemed to pass him by."

 

He's useless in whatever way Tuchel is using him, and his time will come to an end here sooner than later if it carries on. He's not improved at all, doesn't score, doesn't assist. What actually does he do? (Ignoring his 2 final goals, he's most definitely not good enough consistently).

Edited August 22, 20223 yr by AlwaysRight

Looks as bad as Lukaku if not worse. He literally has been invisible, gets bullied off the ball, is lacking pace. Feels like he and Lukaku have swapped bodies and just looks lazy. If we get Aubemyang before Saturday, will be interesting if he starts because Havertz has been poor. He did well against Spurs actually bar the goal but the Everton and Leeds game was just awful. Shame about Broja being injured as someone said he is out for a few weeks because this would have been real chance for him to shine.

He did a little promo thing before Spurs game and played a decent game, but completely not present in the other 2 games. He pick and chose games to show up, no players should have that luxury. If he starts again on Saturday, there's something wrong with Tuchel's player management. If Brojas not fit, pick Pullisic or Ziyech, send a message to Havertz, and tell others to prove they are good enough for this team ( which shouldn't be hard)

He hasn’t gone total pants overnight, he like other players is being played out of his favored one. 
TT has got rid of Tammy, Giroud, Lukaku & Werner leaving only 1 striker Broja who is currently out. 
The club under Marina made a string of failure signings fired SFL and brought in TT.

Who along with Kai seems to have peaked in Porto 

Kai really is an attacking midfielder, so using him as a striker isn't great for him or the squad. The guy looks totally shot of confidence.

Edited August 23, 20223 yr by Malcolm9

Kai is a good player and talent. A ton of kneejerking between 2 games. 

Aubamayo will never win the CL ever. Kai might be in a huge slump but you can't buy nor teach class. He'll come back stronger once Tuchel changes the system.

3 hours ago, evissy said:

Kai is a good player and talent. A ton of kneejerking between 2 games. 

His record is woeful for longer than 2 games. I really like him as a player but for a few months now he's been invisible.